IMHO, Sue is much more correct than most people on this List will EVER admit! Excellent points! Not just their neighbors are laughing, so are their vets and their relatives. I don't mind explaining to Joe Public about our standard; most people understand form and function quite well, but, there is no way I can explain (nor will I EVER defend) the extreme, weak rears, toe-dragging, lifting fronts, poor backs, and poor temperaments they sometimes see in their neighbor's yard, and ask/laugh about. Now, everyone, go put your heads back in the sand and head on out to more specialty shows before they all disappear. And think of the Newbies. They are your future. Paula, 188 days and counting Home of BIS, BISS, Multi-Group Winning, 2 Time AKC JAM/AOE, Intern'l & Am CH, Silver Grand Champion Asgard Harley Davidson, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC #64047 (Hips, Elbows, Cardiac, & Thyroid), 1st male GSD Grand Champion. 2010 #1 GSD in California, Lifetime #1 GSD in Michigan, 2010 #1 GSD male in USA (AKC GCH Stats), 2011 Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show Invitee, 2010-2011-Lifetime AKC Eukanuba Invitee. 2 Time Cruft's Invitee. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Arcturus" <arcturus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Entry fees Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 12:25:22 -0400 I'm reading this thinking about how a new person would view this. $50. to enter, a handler fee and expenses and then if they didn't win...do you really think they would come back? and if they did, how many times would they have to lose before they lost interest? I also think the comments about the excellent quality of the dogs at the specialties was interesting. I was just at a speciality and overheard a big time handler remark that if the "dogs in the ring were in a pet owners backyard, the neighbor would be asking what's wrong with the German Shepherd?". While I understand the "neighbor" is not knowledgable about German Shepherds, I think the handler makes a valid point. So, if you're that newbie who just spent $200. for a dog show, and your neighbor is asking "whats the matter with your dog? " What do you think the newbie is going to do? He can't point out all the wonderful champions in his dog's pedigree, because his neighbor is already laughing at him and acting like he's a dumbass for buying into this. Just something to think about. Sue T. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================