I actually laughed out loud when Paul mentioned Golda.
I get the same thing. Because I campaigned Destiny to a double Select, and she
had a missing tooth, for years people brought under me the dogs with missing
teeth. Dave Rinke told me after he showed Watson to Grand Victor, people
brought all the ugly dogs to him.
When we have a dog with a missing tooth, it becomes a issue we don't like, so I
didn't want to see entries with missing teeth.
The point is, we are all different. But, for me, I am not sure size has ever
affect my decisions.
Evan
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Sent: Fri, Jun 26, 2015 3:37 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Discussion topics
I once judged a show where the next day an exhibitor told me she didn’t show
her bitch under me because she’d heard I didn’t like big bitches. I asked her
if she’d ever seen our Solid Gold bitch? Golda wasn’t a behemoth...but she
wasn’t tiny either. I told her I liked “good bitches” period. (I would have
loved her bitch BTW) Do I prefer them to be closer to the requests of the
Standard in height? You bet...but I would gladly put up a larger, better bitch
than a smaller, not so better bitch.
The “correct picture” in my mind relates to a dog moving off lead...herding
sheep. I don’t look at the lead or the handler hooked to the loop end unless
they come into the picture by screwing up that bootiful picture. I would love
for ALL new Judges (& current Judges who’ve never been) attend several Herding
Trials before they attempt to judge any breed...but especially the GSD. The dog
moving “off lead” is God’s gift to a Judges eye...that is as long as the
structure is correct enough to allow them to move with an effortless gait that
would let them herd all day long. Size can be a boon or a bane if the structure
is faulty.
Paul
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Discussion topics
I doubt I would fault a dog, or a bitch for being too big. Remember we
had Patriot for a while. I also don't know if I would put up an undersized
bitch, but I have seen some small males I would go for.
In the end, for me, size isn't a big thing. If they match the standard, I
don't mind a bit big or a bit small.
If you don't agree with me, don't show under me. I also try not to get
hung up on faults at all. But, I do hate a roached back.
Evan
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From: Kathy Martin <foxtrotgsd@xxxxxxxxx>
To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Jun 26, 2015 10:58 am
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Discussion topics
OK.....I'm sure I would agree with you on that one VBG. However, does that mean
we should look to change the standard? If the size/weight listed in the
standard are simply the "desirable" traits, does that mean that under/over are
"undesirable" traits? If we choose to ignore the size/weights specified, does
that mean we can pick and choose which parts of the standard we adhere to?
If it's OK for a dog to be an inch over size, does that mean being an inch
under the desired size is also OK? In reality I doubt there are many judges
that would put up the "under" size. Let's hear from some of those judges out
there!
Just throwing these thoughts out there for purpose of discussion.....remember,
it's all FB's fault. He asked for discussion topics!
For the record, I'm the first to admit I love a big boned "hunky" masculine
male dog.
Kathy Martin
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Before we listen to someone, we should look at their dogs. I doubt I would
even keep Max's dogs as pets.
