My experience, is that very few people make breeding decisions based on the critique of a judge. If they do, they do so on the critique of the a judge who's opinion they respect highly. In general, i find that most people who choose to breed to a stud dog, do so after seeing him live and in person or they get input from a friend or associate who's opinion they respect. Breeders, in the real sense, take it a step further by investigating bloodlines, looking at other progeny etc etc. I find true "Breeders" to be an independent group who think for themselves and trust their own mind, instinct and knowledge over any second hand information. Now with that being said, critiques as they are written today, are interesting reading but more a reflection of the judges knowledge or lack thereof. Dave Rinke did a critique at ringside at a local show and showed that he's confident in his opinion and knowledge to put himself in that position. I wonder how many judges have that capability??? Bill ----- Original Message ---- From: "EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx" <EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx> To: lollark@xxxxxxx; Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 8, 2006 10:14:37 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Critique ????????? How about this critique. The judge is one of those many many judges that people feel is incompetent. He/she critiques your male and does a bad job and says your dog has short comings that he really does not have. Now all the people who know your dog know this not accurate but the person who lives on the other side of the state who was going to breed to your dog reads this published critique and changes his mind and goes elsewhere. You lose the bitch owner loses and maybe the dog world loses a good one. You can expand on this theme to include all the other possibilities of a poor critique that is not accurate. Fred ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================