On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:45:04 -0800 (PST), Denise Williams <denwil2007@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >Of course, I could be wrong, whose making a scientific study >of this? It's nearly impossible to do so because of the lack >of openness. Isn't there someone on this list who is keeping track of problems? I thought there was. I agree with all of you that the real problem is the folks who want to sweep all problems under the rug and not only not talk about them, but forget they ever existed. What is that old proverb again? "There is none so blind as he who will not see!" When people in this and other breeds get good and fed up, maybe there will be some changes made? Something like this might be a good start... IF people can be brave and expose problems to the light of day: http://www.wsgenetics.info/ -- Karen C. Email: kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================