[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Apology to the Board

  • From: barbara17236@xxxxxxx
  • To: terrycochran97756@xxxxxxxxx, pkstoesser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:24:30 -0400 (EDT)

Whites can win already win performance GV/Gvx - as of last year.   So, that is 
now no longer a valid argument/statement.

Barb Hively - PA
DNA.  It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd



-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Cochran <terrycochran97756@xxxxxxxxx>
To: pkstoesser <pkstoesser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wed, Jul 31, 2013 12:22 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Apology to the Board


I know the white breeders have been divided for years over being part of the  
GSDCA or becoming  their own breed. They can't become a separate breed without 
the GSDCA approval. I have no idea why becoming a serious fault , behind blues 
and livers would be considered a step forward other than they will be able to 
be 
performance GVX or GV. If this makes them happy, so be it. I still feel that 
they are settling for very little. 
Terry
Sent from my iPad

On Jul 31, 2013, at 9:05 AM, "Pam Stoesser" <pkstoesser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Fact:  Some part of the white GSD people have been petitioning the Board for 
years to remove white (but not albino) as a disqualification.
> Fact:  The Board cannot change the Breed Standard.  The process to change the 
Breed Standard (put out by Lana over the weekend) is in the Club’s Bylaws 
(available on GSDCA.org/) which involves a lot of petitioning of the AKC and a 
ballot to the membership.  In order to approve the Standard change 2/3rd of the 
people returning the ballot have to vote “yes”.
> Fact:  The Board voted to let the membership decide because there does not 
seem to be a consensus among the members.
> From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:42 AM
> To: terrycochran97756@xxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Apology to the Board
> 
> Terry wrote:
> I think it is selfish and self centered. We are going to remove a DQ so we 
might be able to raise the numbers in the conformation ring? Wouldn't it be 
better to allow the white dogs to become
> there own breed? How many of you enter a dog show to loose? Do the breeders 
> of 
whites not want to prove their lines in a conformation ring? Are they all 
performance?  Do we need members so badly that we are willing to hold the white 
breeders back?  I vote to cut them loose and let them do there own thing. This 
is an attempt to placate them so they keep on sending in dues and entering 
performance  events nothing more. The GSD is standing between them and the AKC.
> Like someone said, What judge would ever put them up?  So the GSDCA thinks it 
is a step forward for the white breeders to  be made a serious fault instead of 
a DQ after they have put in all the effort on cleaning up health issues? That 
says tons about us as a club.
> Terry<<<<
> 
> I do know there clubs working with the Swiss White Shepherd "Blanc Berger 
Suisse" for a separate breed as UKC made them one and FCI did as Germany 
approved.
> I think they felt since the GSDCA in the past followed Germany on the whites 
it would happen again.  I know the white GSD and White Shepherd clubs are 
divided
> and since I do not own, breed or plan to I do not know what the right 
> decision 
is.  However,  I will say when the UKC made the choice to only allow white dog 
to
> white dog breeding to be registered as a White Shepherd dog I do see a 
downside to it.  A white GSD can still be bred to a white GSD but now only can 
be registered as
> a GSD and can show as such.  
> 
> I agree with if they are made a serious fault instead of DQ do not see this 
> as 
a plus either.  In the end regardless it will be up to the GSDCA voters to 
decide.  So, I guess all members that care one way or another need to cast that 
vote and not complain when the votes are counted and accept the decision.
> 
> http://www.awsaclub.com/   
> 
> 
> Theresa
> 
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