Turvs, Sheepdogs, Mals, and Laks are four seperate breeds in this country. One breed with four varieties elsewhere in the world. There are MANY breeds that split strictly over color, coat length, and ear carriage without breeding in "other" stuff. -- Suzanne www.tsalishepherds.com Home of Ch Firedog, Ch Cookie, Ch Flair, BIS/BISS Ch Yancy, Ch Flash, and Lil' Miss Dancer!! Website updated 11/04 -------------- Original message -------------- > > > In a message dated 7/8/2005 12:52:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, > Gsdman2@xxxxxxx writes: > I think it is probably a relative rarity that a breed > actually became a separate breed with no out breeding to create that > separation. > There are varieties within breeds, and perhaps that is what you are talking > about? Even then though, giving a disqualifying fault "variety" status > would be > ridiculous. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================