In a message dated 7/9/2005 8:08:47 AM Central Daylight Time, tsaligsds@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: OK, based on your assessment lets try the West Highland White Terrier. White was a "DQ" in Cairns before there was a "standard." Breeders, mostly royalty, simply killed any white progeny. White pups were eventually kept by the commoners who began breeding them - white to white - and named them accordingly. Based strictly on a color division, the two varieties are now seperate breeds. Based on limited breeding stock and line/inbreeding they have diverged to the point that they don't even look like the same breed. --------------------------- Here's the story I found .. copied from http://www.barkbytes.com/history/whwter.htm <<The story of the development of the West Highland White Terrier, is said to be from the estate of Colonel E.D. Malcolm, of Poltallock, Argyllshire, Scotland. He was using one of his favorite Cairn Terriers in a fox, or rabbit, hunt. The Cairn Terrier is a wheaten, or brown, color, and this was effective as camouflage. Unfortunately, Colonel Malcolm accidentally shot and killed his Cairn Terrier instead of the fox. In his remorse for this accident, the Colonel vowed to breed only for the white color so that such an accident could not happen again. It is documented that up to this time, any all-white colored terriers were destroyed as being undesirable. The Colonel changed that outlook, and developed the Westie to become a distinct breed. The Westie was seen in competition for the first time, at the London Crufts show in 1907. In 1908 the American Kennel Club recognized the West Highland White Terrier as a distinct breed. The West Highland White Terrier Club of America was founded in 1909. >> Notice that there was a specific purpose for the development of the Westie. It had nothing to do with anyone's personal preference. Tom Langlitz ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================