Don't ask, just tell. The Bylaws of the GSDCA aptly cover this situation. See Article III, Section 9. "Minutes of the Meetings. The proceedings of these meetings (annual, special, regular) shall be recorded, and the Minutes Published in the GSDCA Review. Such minutes shall include the yeas and nays of all votes" This means that the names of all board members and their vote (yea or nay) is to be recorded FOR ALL VOTES, and published in the Review. As the author of this bylaw change, I can tell you that the purpose was to prevent the situation where board members could hide behind the anonymity of Secret Ballots. Dick Whalen +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In a message dated 1/28/2007 9:43:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, arycrest@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: I agree sensitive personal matters should always be discussed in private, but in my opinion, it is cowardly of our elected officials to vote in private and keep the individual votes secret from the membership. Anytime a vote is taken, the breakdown of who voted for/against/abstained should be made public for all members to see. And who knows, maybe the BOD will be brave enough to publish the voting results for all to see - I sure hope so. Gayle & the Hooligans! http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=6&uid=4294023 - Link to The Hooligans Albums -- ELG440@xxxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 1/28/2007 3:43:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, VPREZHMF writes: We will never be privy to the discussion,since this is the type of problem that is dealt with in Closed Session. After the Board has made a decision as a result of their discussion.they go back into Open Session and announce their results so that it is recorded in the minutes. You will see that,but nothing of the private session. I remember being on the board. Ralph Roberts walked up to me after a closed session, (which I argued should be open) and said; "What happens in a closed session is known by the members before the doors are opened." I think this is true. Our board is a group of very good devoted people. I am sure we will know why the gang of nine voted as they did. Just ask. Evan ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================