well , dave , you pissed off harold scott, now you pissed of ME. George George I will hold that in my distinction in my trophy case on the top shelf as a badge of honor. I left the club pretty late last night. I got the HF station going so that people could use it without the intimidation factor of the amplifier sitting there. I also shortened all the Ethernet cables so they were the right length, and got the third computer online, and the printer working with everything. I then wrote a very detailed explanation for all to see. Last weekend I lengthened a cable for your radio so you would quit whining. In return for that I get you telling me to get a life. I also point out the fact, an opinion that I am not alone in, that you seem to maintain proprietary rights to equipment that you donate. You have no such rights. You don't have the authority to say, as you did earlier, who can and cannot use that equipment. I don't either, but at least I am not asserting some kind of image that I do. You really need to work on your grammar as well. Consider using capital letters, as well as complete words instead of "u" and "r" for "you" and "are". I could see such usage on CW, but it is inappropriate here. And please, this reflector is for amateur radio use only. Please don't advertise your business on here with your website. As for Harold Scott, I have spoken with him twice in depth in the last week. He seemed fine. Dave _____ From: sarcmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sarcmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of george bernard Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:53 PM To: john maetta Subject: [sarcmembers] Re: SARC HF station use etc well , dave , you pissed off harold scott, now you pissed of ME. george santa barbara, ca web page is www.balanceindustries.com for my company cell 818-370-9407 _____ From: dave@xxxxxxxxxx To: sarcmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sarcmembers] Re: SARC HF station use etc Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 21:51:05 -0700 George Get some capital letters. Dave _____ From: sarcmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sarcmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of george bernard Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:35 PM To: john maetta Subject: [sarcmembers] Re: SARC HF station use etc dave, get a life. george santa barbara, ca web page is www.balanceindustries.com for my company cell 818-370-9407 _____ From: dave@xxxxxxxxxx To: sarcmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sarcmembers] Re: SARC HF station use etc Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 12:47:45 -0700 I am not turning it over. Access to it is as it has always been. If somebody wanted to use it in the past, they could have used it and blown it up as easily as they could now. The only difference now is that we have removed the added extra complication of moving the cables around. I have not changed any policy that the club has whatsoever. People should not operate things they don't understand. I have just made it easier for people to operate in the easy mode (and easier to understand). In the past, people were intimidated from using the radio at all because there were no instructions on how to do so. I really think you should read what I said again. In the easy mode, they can't blow anything up. The tuner takes care of everything, and if the tuner can not achieve a good match, the radio folds back if there is a bad mismatch and protects the final amp. I would also prefer if you would stop referring to donated items as if they are still yours. I don't care how much you paid for them, they are now club property and nobody wants to have them destroyed. You don't have a monopoly on concern for the items. Dave KA6BFB _____ From: sarcmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sarcmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of george bernard Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 11:56 AM To: john maetta Subject: [sarcmembers] Re: SARC HF station use etc dave, i think u r making a mistake turning the hf amp over to the general population, that's how it got blown before. u should be requiring a check out on this item. if a member is serious about using it , he/she will be quite willing to get checked out. we are not going to turn over the vhf ssb gear to the general population at this time, it is not ready and fool proof yet. george bernard w6nre ps: i am willing to go up to the club and brief properly qualified operators on the idiosyncrasies of this expensive gear. i dont want the amps blown out due to over driving, i paid a lot of money for them. one of our new techs might make a mess of things unless properly briefed on how things work, i am sure john portune does not give experience in his tech classes. santa barbara, ca web page is www.balanceindustries.com for my company cell 818-370-9407 _____ From: dave@xxxxxxxxxx To: sarcmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sarcmembers] SARC HF station use etc Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 10:00:51 -0700 All We finally have a nice shelving system to accommodate are ham shack at the club. Thanks to Bob for the fine craftsmanship. It looks and functions terrific. Assembling the station to its final configuration will take time and money, but one of the HF operating positions is available now for general use. It will accommodate simple use with the auto tuner, or complex high power operation without moving cables around. Here is the FT-840 station. A paper copy of the manual is available for reference at the operating position. All that is necessary to operate the station in the "simple mode" is to turn on the tuner mode on the radio, and ensure that the amplifier is off and the tuner is in the "coax 1 direct" mode, as shown in the terrible cell phone pictures below. Amplifier is off. The PWR and OPR buttons are pushed in on the lower part to OFF and STBY respectively. This effectively bypasses the amplifier. Tuner mode is "Coax 1 direct" so that the tuner is bypassed. That's it. The radio is now ready for tune and play operation with the auto tuner turned on. Here is the section from the manual on how to operate the tuner For the time being, the B&W folded dipole is connected to the station. It is the best all around performer. If you want to change it, you can connect a different cable to the tuner where the current one is. For those of you that want to operate the amplifier, be advised it has a parasitic oscillation issue that you need to be on top of. I am going to order a cheap kit to solve this issue. If you want pointers on how to use the amp, just ask me. In the long term, we plan to have an antenna switching system that will allow both stations to operate all of the antenna with a simple selector mechanism. I will probably send out an email later describing that effort. On another note. All three computers in the shack are now operational, and the printer is also working for both of them. Thanks to all that donated monitors and keyboards. 73 Dave KA6BFB