I think another night is needed since I can't really compare my Saddle Mountain trip with Dirt Road. I think Saddle Mountain is easier to get to (a lot less driving on dirt / gravel roads), and maybe is just a tad bid darker than Dirt Road, but with the weather, it's hard to say for sure. Saddle Mountain seems to have less small town clutter on the horizon (although the hill at Dirt Road hides Arlington etc pretty well). One drawback is the late night traffic at Saddle (a couple of members have reported late night drive-bys), but on the other hand, Dirt Road is just off the Agua Caliente road and it too could suffer from late night drivers. I think we need a good, clear night at Dirt Road before we can say for sure which of the two is better, if either. Dick H _____________________________________________ From: sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Tejera Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:25 PM To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sac-forum] Dirt Rd vs. Saddle Mountain OK those who stuck it out and have been to both sites: Opinions? Pro/Cons? Since the wx wasn't ideal would another night (Dec) at Dirt Rd be useful before deciding? Clear Skies Rick Tejera President, Editor SACnews Saguaro Astronomy Club Phoenix, Arizona www.saguaroastro.org <http://www.saguaroastro.org/> saguaroastro@xxxxxxx