Gene, Wow, Did someone not have their morning coffee? I agree it is up to the park to ensure safety issues. But as a group we can assist / ensure the area around the T-scopes are safe for us and all those attending, that's all I was concern with.. As for the blinkers & light sticks suggestions, I was only offering to assist in getting lanterns up and running again or offering an alternate solution if they were not working any longer. No disrespect to anyone nor was I making any negative issue of anything. I ONLY wanted to help out.. Sorry for the confusion & irritation I caused you... I'll leave it to you to do whatever and will disregard unpacking / locating the 6v's I have. Sorry again!!! Best wishes for a successful event.. Sincerely, Steve Palmer gene lucas <geneluca@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Others have come up with some good suggestions. As far as the Thunderbird Park Star Party goes, that is NOT our concern, let Glendale Parks Dept. come up with an answer -- I repeat, we are >guests< for that event, and NOT responsible for safety or lighting issues... (We can make constructive >suggestions< on the shuttle bus parking lights....) Let's not get carried away on that, it's a public star party, NOT a "dark sky" site. We are not the "experts" on handling crowd control and traffic movement in a public park situation. For the Messier Marathon, I am open to various suggestions for marking the driveway, if AJ feels they are needed. As I have not participated at Farnsworth Ranch for some years, I can't comment further on what might be useful or needed. As to the existing blinker lights... While they served well for some years out at Buckeye Hills, I will need to review them and see if there is any corrosion or other issues. I can report back on those. Surprising to me that after all this time, that this would surface as an issue, as nobody has mentioned using them for years. I >believe< they take 6V lantern cells, will need to take a count as to quantity. The other suggestions on more modern options would likely be more viable in terms of cost effectiveness... Replacement lantern cells would likely not last through a year, as they deteriorate rapidly when stored (esp. in the heat of someone's garage...) -- unless perhaps the batteries are refrigerated.... BTW, the newer blinker lights used in road construction nowadays are all LEDs, even though the external package may look the same. And those are "your tax dollars at work"... (One of my friend's "rich" relatives owned the rental company that supplies barricades and signs.) :>)) Gene Lucas (17250) Steve Palmer wrote: >Gene, > > How many do you need? You are talking about the sq. 6v type with springy > contacts on top correct? Just want to make sure I am not confused.... > > Steve Palmer >gene lucas wrote: > I have the olde SAC blinkers up here in the garage, if somebody wants to >spring for some fresh batteries.... >(6V lantern cells, I think...) Not enough of 'em for a full mile, >however... >Gene >(17250) > >Jack Jones wrote: >Maybe, if it doesn't affect their budget. I don't know how they plan to >execute that, it's like a mile. I'm calling her again tomorrow. >Jack >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rick Tejera" >To: >Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:35 PM >Subject: [sac-board] Re: TBird Spring Star Party May 10 >Any way of getting them to use red lights? >Clear Skies >Rick Tejera >Editor SACnews >Saguaro Astronomy Club >Phoenix, Arizona >www.saguaroastro.org >saguaroastro@xxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.