Schott (OT) ________________________________ When we got our new induction stove-top range (Thermador, old U.S. brand, but now part of BSH) I looked into the glass manufacturer. This unit is a Bosch unit, made at a Bosch facility in Spain. The top is called Ceran, a Schott product , and is a so-called space age product, based on high temperature ceramics used in the space program. I believe there is a Zeiss corporative connection (someone will have to verify this). It is my understanding that this 'new' technology derived from the breakthrough at Corning in the 50s that resulted in the Corningware line of kitchen ware. Pyrex proceeded Corningware but this was something different. We've had it for 5 years, works well. Five elements, two regular IR, three induction. When the IR elements are on, yes, they get very hot, extremely hot to the touch on the glass surface. But the induction 'elements' cool down very quickly after they do their job. I get a kick out of the connection with the stove top and the Zeiss lenses and the B-W filters. John From: Don Williams <dwilli10@xxxxxxx> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 5:50 PM Subject: [rollei_list] Re: [rolleiusers] 4x5 At 01:30 AM 1/4/2015, you Richard wrote, in part: This was partially because of the break up of the monopoly the Germans had on optical glass before WW-1. While some optical glass was made in France and England most of it, especially the Barium types, came from the Schott works in Dresden which was controlled by Zeiss. I own something that uses Schott glass. My range cooktop. No idea how it would stand up to a serious thermal shock but it surely was tested with a boil over before the design was released. No idea of it's index of refraction or dispersion. It does seem to be transparent to red and IR because it doesn't get very hot unless there is a pan sitting over the heating coils. I'm pretty sure Zeiss had nothing to do with the stove. Happy New Year- DAW