[rollei_list] Re: Rolleicord Vb $1,451

  • From: CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 14:59:07 -0300

The clarification was necessary for historical reasons, f.e., Rollei
called the first Rolleiflex 2.8 (Tessar 2.8/80) "Rolleiflex 2.8" only,
however when they manufactured the "Rolleiflex 2.8B" afterward, they
started to call "Rolleiflex 2.8A" the original "Rolleiflex 2.8" using
the internal factory name "2.8 A" for cameras descriptions, cameras
technical manuals, etc from the 2.8B production., the same way they
could call "Old Standard" the older model when they launched the "New
Standard or Standard Neu"  model but it was not the case, and then I'm
also historically correct to do the clarification.

The original "Standard" name also has a common use today, if you look
right now for "Rolleiflex Standard " in ebay, you'll find some items
with the name without "old" and authors like C. Prochnow and W.D.
Emanuel keep the original factory names to distinguish both models. In
fact, the name"Standard New" was a resource Rollei used to take
commercial advantage from the "Rolleiflex Standard" camera enormous
popularity and prestige at the time, but the New Standard was a
technical mix between the newer Automat and the Rolleicord, as decades
later would be the Rolleiflex T.

Carlos



2011/8/20 Kirk Thompson <thompsonkirk@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Yes, Carlos,
>
> You're technically 100% correct – how could Rollei have called it the Old
> Standard if they hadn't designed a new one yet!?
>
> Nevertheless, usage seems to have accepted the Old/New distinction.
> Phillips says the 'common name' is Old Standard, so he uses that as his
> chapter heading.  And the Flickr folks who use the camera call themselves
> the 'Rolleiflex Old Standard' group:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/rolleioldstandard/
>
> Another instance in which usage has trumped original meaning?
>
> Kirk
>
>> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 08:45:03 -0300
>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rolleicord Vb $1,451
>> From: cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx
>> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Hi Kirk:
>>
>> I don't like to use the term "Old Standard", the camera name is
>> "Rolleiflex Standard", someone, (not Rollei) added the word "old" when
>> the Standard New appeared in 1939, but the Standard New was a cheaper
>> Rolleicord-Rolleiflex intermediate model with very limited production
>> due to the war, the Standard was a more significant model to be "old"
>> regarding the Standard New IMO, and then you have "Rolleiflex
>> Standard" and "Rolleiflex Standard New".
>>
>> Carlos
>
>>
>
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