I really think it's almost obvious there are better tools than a Rollei TLR for macrophotography, however they do a good job with the Rolleinars and then it seems we agree on this point. I forgot to include Helmut Newton in my list. Interesting photographs with the Rollei 35 Mike, it's always pleasant to see in your monitor well scanned and balanced slides, I liked the first nocturnal shot very much.- All the best Carlos --- Mike Kovacs <mskovacs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió: > I thought we were talking about close-ups here. > > Don't get me wrong - I love my TLRs too for the > types of things you > cite, but not for my macrophotography > > Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote: > > DOF Mike?, you have an automatic DOF calculator in > the > > TLR and BTW it is a good exercise for the mind to > use > > the DOF scale if the model that your are using > don't > > have it, I love the TLR viewfinder, I love the TLR > > perspective in my photos that I obtain from the > > viewfinder, what do you think about Richard > Avedon, > > Irving Penn, Robert Doisneau, Diane Arbus, Robert > > Cappa, Fritz Henle, to mention some of the TLR > > shooters known in USA, are they among the best > > shooters? > > > > All the best > > Carlos > > --- Mike Kovacs <mskovacs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió: > > > > > >> I for one agree with Eric and Richard on this. > When > >> shooting close-ups, > >> the best shooters keep an eye on the background > as > >> much as the subject. > >> One distracting element, usually a highlight, can > >> really ruin a great shot. > >> > >> Hard to do this when you don't see what's on the > >> film in the > >> viewfinder. Its also hard to see the depth of > >> field. I use an SLR or > >> view camera for this kind of work. > >> > >> > >> Eric Goldstein wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Peter J Nebergall wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> having used just about everything, I feel this > is > >>>> > >> an "angels dancing on > >> > >>>> (with?) pin-heads" debate. Unless you are > going > >>>> > >> closer than my TLRS can > >> > >>>> focus, its an academic construct, this > >>>> > >> parallax... > >> > >>>> to get really close, use an SLR. I won't use > my > >>>> > >> beloved IIc either. > >> > >>>> PJ Nebergall > >>>> > >>> > >>> As Richard K and I have both pointed out, this > is > >>> > >> incorrect > >> > >>> information. The effect is there at 3 feet and > can > >>> > >> be quite obvious > >> > >>> when using Rolleinars. > >>> > >>> My best regards to your angels. :-) > >>> > >>> > >>> Eric Goldstein > >>> --- > >>> Rollei List > >>> > >>> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > >>> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > >> with 'subscribe' in > >> > >>> the subject field OR by logging into > >>> > >> www.freelists.org > >> > >>> - Unsubscribe at > rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > >> with 'unsubscribe' > >> > >>> in the subject field OR by logging into > >>> > >> www.freelists.org > >> > >>> - Online, searchable archives are available at > >>> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> --- > >> Rollei List > >> > >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> with 'subscribe' > >> in the subject field OR by logging into > >> www.freelists.org > >> > >> - Unsubscribe at > rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> with > >> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging > >> into www.freelists.org > >> > >> - Online, searchable archives are available at > >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Preguntá. 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