[rollei_list] Re: People and Photo Permissions
- From: Jerry Friedman <tinycameraco@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 07:18:49 -0700 (PDT)
I have gotten myself into sticky situations. I usually ask if I can take
someone's picture and find that as often as not people do not want their
picture taken. Maybe it is a sign of the times but i have found a little more
suspicion over the last while. --- In any event, sometimes you just do not know
what is right. I once took a street scene in London and had someone walked over
to me and complained, though he was so peripheral to the scene that at first I
did not realize what his complaint was. In any event, I took the opportunity
to apologize and explain that no hurt was intended and that the subject was
something else, etc etc. It worked out in the end (I mean, after all, what
could he do? or, what could I do?)
But even buildings and scenery can be touchy. I once lived across the street
from a stunning old 19th century courthouse. I used to use its steeple and
clocktower as a fast and dirty lens test for infinity detail and its wonderful
gas meters for closeups. After 9/11, it became impossible to take pictures
anywhere around the building. Now, I am not talking about LA, NY or Chicago but
a small rural town in Ohio. Even so, there are now cameras around the building
and merely stopping to look for too long a time elicits a security check. But
even where I live now, in a really rural area, you can still run up against
someone who is suspicious. About half a mile from me there is a sign on
someone's property indicating all the things one can not do on tyhe owner's
property. Everything from spitting to catching mice and i am not even going to
tell you that virtualy every animal you can think of was listed as out of
bounds for hunting. Then the list went on the indicate all the traveling
salesmen that should not approach the door of his house. All told, it was a
pretty funny sign. Or so I thought. I got out of my car to take a picture of
the sign and damn if the owner was not out of his house 200 yards away
screaming and yelling about not taking pictures either.
Please understand: None of this really limits my meager innate photographic
abilities. I still find lots of subjects for my too many "almost good" images.
Jerry
--- Peter J Nebergall <iusar4s@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I know Americans feel it is their right to sue for and about everything
> and nothing, and this is frightening to photographers, especially those
> not wealthy or engaged in the practice of law -- but there really are
> specific laws detailing who/what you may photograph, and what you can and
> cannot do with the pictures. I tried to synopsize them in STREET PHOTOG,
> in a chapter titled: "Photography and the Law."
>
> You CAN photograph w/o permission in many cases, so long as the venue is
> "a public place," and your images are not held to be libelous/slanderous.
> You CANNOT use any recognizable person's image for "commercial purpose"
> without their permission/release. Commercial purpose is broadly
> interpreted to mean "advertising."
>
> So you may be OK.
>
> PJ Nebergall
>
> On Tue, 2 May 2006 05:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Jan Decher <jan.decher@xxxxxxx>
> writes:
> > Recent people picture postings on this list make me wonder how all of
> > you all handle the issue of asking permission of your photographic
> > subjects to post their images on the web. I know I would be in
> > deep trouble if I posted pictures of my family and friends - esp.
> > pregnant or in swimming pools - on the web without their explicit
> > permission.
> > Since I doubt I could convincingly explain "why in the world one
> > would do that" (just try explain to someone to your non-photographic
> > family the "photo hobby - people images as art" connection), I stick
> > to landscapes and macros and the occasional anomymous strangers that
> > "walk through" my pictures. Perhaps it takes a certain
> > self-confidence to post other images. What do you all think?
> > Jan
> >
> > ......
> > Listers,
> > I've posted 2 recent Rollei shots for your review and comment:
> > http://tinyurl.com/bjvfn
> > #1. Street scene. The woman walked into my field of view as I was
> >
> > composing for another shot.
>
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