----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Lehrer" <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 12:40 PM Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Old film > Richard, > > Was that last Agfacolor any relation to Anscochrome? I > used > it a lot in the late 40's and the 50's. The ones I have > still have > excellent color. The Ektachromes have really > deteriorated, but > the Kodachromes are still perfect. > > Jerry It is. However Anscochrome and Anscocolor (negative material) were advanced over the earlier materials. Unfortunately, the Ansco materials used by the motion picture industry c.1950 proved to be very unstable. I have seen a lot of German war footage in color. It must have been Agfacolor or Agfachrome. It looks pretty good on TV but is grainy compared to Kodachrome. BTW, I remember seeing _Bwana Devil_, a 3-D movie, when it was first released. One thing I noticed at the time but didn't know the reason for was the washed out looking color. This is just what Anscocolor looked like. I was used to seeing Technicolor with its high contrast and saturation. The Ansco stuff was sure weak tea in comparison. Ansco came out with their films about a year before Kodak announced Eastman Color, the motion picture version of Ektacolor. It was better but also turned out to be unstable although not as bad as Anscocolor. One advantage of Anscochrome for home use was that processing it was simple and relatively cheap. My first experience with color in the darkroom was processing a roll of 120 slides taken with my original Rolleicord IV. They were not bad considering I probably made all sorts of mistakes. I also once tried Ansco Printon, a direct positive printing material for making prints from transparencies. I think the stuff I had was outdated (I couldn't have afforded it otherwise). Anyway it was awful. I have since seen some very good looking Printon. Evidently some people had the magic. At least one big N.Y. lab offered Printon as an adjunct to Kodak Dye Transfer printing. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list