Richard, The first Weston meter, the model 617, came out in 1932. Jerry Richard Knoppow wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc James Small" <msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 5:01 PM > Subject: [rollei_list] Lightmeters and Estimated Photography > > > At 03:44 PM 4/29/05 -0700, Richard Knoppow wrote: > > > >> I think there was another photoelectric meter before > >> the=20 > >>Weston but it was the first popular one and the first > >>to=20 > >>have a reliable film speed service.=20 > > > >> I have often used the meter in my Nikon F when > >> shooting=20 > >>LF because it has a well defined area of sensitivity > >>and=20 > >>I've found it to be very reliable. I've also found the=20 > >>built-in meter in my Rolleiflex 2.8E to be reliable. > > > > Shame on you, Richard. > > > > Both Gossen and Metrawatt in Europe were producing > > photoelectric meters at > > the same time as Weston. While Weston produced the first > > branded hand-held > > meter, it was Metrawatt of Nurnberg which produced the > > first clip-on meter > > for the Leitz camera, a rather rare 1939 product. =20 > > > > But, in the end, any photographer who cannot properly > > evaluate a sunlit > > scene and determine the exposure from his own head needs > > to rethink the > > process. Using another camera to determine the exposure > > is less a > > confession of weakness: it is an acknowledgement of a > > failure to > > comprehend the mixture of light and subject which allows > > us to take > > pictures. An undue reliance on a lightmeter indicates a > > failure of > > understanding. > > > > Marc > > > > msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > > Cha robh b=E0s fir gun ghr=E0s fir! > > > > NEW FAX NUMBER: +540-343-8505 > > > I no longer remember where the first photoelectric meter > was made, perhaps Germany, but it dated from the very early > 1930's. There were other photoelectric meters on the market > by the time the Weston hand held meter came on sale but it > was Weston's film speed service and good design that > established it as a standard. Henney and Dudley, in > _Handbook of Photography_ c.1939 show the characteristics of > 13 meters including three German made ones and one English > meter (Avo). This was reprinted from an article in _Photo > Technique_ Vol.1 No.1 June, 1939. This was a short lived > magazine published by McGraw-Hill and intended for the > professional-industrial photographic market. I have about > two numbers, they are extremely rare. Eventually it was > merged into "American Photography" ruining both magazines. > > --- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list