At 07:01 PM 4/29/2005, Marc James Small wrote: >Shame on you, Richard. > >Both Gossen and Metrawatt in Europe were producing photoelectric meters at >the same time as Weston. While Weston produced the first branded hand-held >meter, it was Metrawatt of Nurnberg which produced the first clip-on meter >for the Leitz camera, a rather rare 1939 product. =20 > >But, in the end, any photographer who cannot properly evaluate a sunlit >scene and determine the exposure from his own head needs to rethink the >process. Using another camera to determine the exposure is less a >confession of weakness: it is an acknowledgement of a failure to >comprehend the mixture of light and subject which allows us to take >pictures. An undue reliance on a lightmeter indicates a failure of >understanding. > >Marc Marc, Some of us are AR about exposure settings. I am personally a True Believer in using incident readings as they are the most accurate, especially for shooting color chromes, most especially for Kodachrome, which generally needs to be centered in exposure for midtones. I made the following photograph in southern Utah a few years ago: http://johnlind.tripod.com/2ndagrt/2ndagrt19.html This is a full-frame scan of it. For display prints I crop the bottom deep shadow out and some off the right side making it more of a "panoramic style" aspect ratio. I've given the full frame scan so one can see the deep shadows I was in at the time and they were elongating away from me. To get a proper incident reading from the mesa back toward the camera, I took two quarts of water, my Weston Master V with invercone and headed for the mesa. Took all night and into the next day, arriving at a suitable location on the mesa about mid-day. Grabbed some rest in the shade under a convenient scrub tree (checking first to evict any scorpions that might be waiting in the shade until sunset) and waited until the same approximate time of day I would shoot the photograph. Made my incident reading and headed back to my car. Arrived the next day, rested in the car and waited until approximately the same time of day again (adjusted for daily changes moonrise/moonset). Was glad I had taken two quarts of water as I had consumed it all during the round trip to make a proper incident meter reading. Made the photograph of the moon setting over the scene, and continued my journey toward Arizona. There is a bridge I crossed that night near the Utah/Arizona border and found it for sale for an excellent price that I couldn't turn down. Has a great view over a deep gorge; excellent for photography of the gorge and a large nearby hydro-electric dam. From the edge of the gorge, the bridge itself is quite photogenic. However, it's not likely I'll be back there anytime soon and really don't need it as much as I though I might. Since it's Friday, I'm offering the scenic bridge up to the list before puting up for sale on ePrey. -- John Lind --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list