Attached is the map I put together for ROCtober.
Mike K
On 6/9/2015 6:35 PM, R Dierking wrote:
Maybe we should actually be encouraging people to take this new road and they could level it out. 😉 Remember the North-South access road wasn’t much of a road at first. Then the ruts filled themselves and the road became compacted and a little wider. However, there are too many turns on the current route and people cutting across the range is a worry. Dodo Road is a straight shot and pizza delivery would be faster.
Also, if David reposted and asked people not to drink water and not eat before they came to the lakebed, we could probably get by with one portable toilet.
*From:* R Dierking <mailto:applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:00 PM
*To:* roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
I was going to place them back from the highway but good point Kurt.
So, I'll stand down on this and we'll see if there are any horror stories.
I'll take the high road and you take the low one and I'll be at ROCstock before ya.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 9, 2015, at 3:35 PM, "Kurt Gugisberg" <kurtgug@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:kurtgug@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Yes, I guess I left out the "that" and a comma but the way I wrote
it is true too. ;-)
I'm afraid if you put the cones out, people will think that it is
the main entrance and will want to turn there. The cones may
actually get more people stuck. Maybe it is best to leave it as it
is and let the people use it who know it is there and are willing
to chance it.
Kurt
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:59 AM, R Dierking
<applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
So, it’s official. (Wait a minute…) In keeping with the
long-standing “We don’t need no stinking badges” rule and my
past experience with Cal Trans-type work, I’ll place 5 orange
cones with reflectors spaced at 10’ along the “exit”. That
way, if someone wants to shoot between them they can. Also,
with enough velocity off the highway, they should get enough
air to clear the tops.
Also, the exit is now the Dodo Turnoff.
Darn it, I should have submitted a dodo holding a Punisher for
the ROCstock T-shirt design. The motto could have been “Doom
on You”
LOL, I just noticed your first sentence. I think you missed a
punctuation mark: “Oh, I don’t know about Richard.”
*From:* Kurt Gugisberg <mailto:kurtgug@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2015 11:41 AM
*To:* roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Oh I don't know about Richard. I think that after the first
one gets stuck, no one else could get by. Well maybe the real
big idiots. But then do we want them flying rockets anyway?
Kurt
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:31 AM, R Dierking
<applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
I just got an image of a bunch of RV’s stacked up at the
exit. OMG; thank you David. LOL
Remember the Dodo scene in the movie Ice Age:
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dodos+in+movie+ice+age&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=077E805EB888E415C59F077E805EB888E415C59F
With everyone’s permission, I would like to name this
access, “Dodo Road”
*From:* David Erbas-White <mailto:derbas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2015 10:22 AM
*To:* roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On 6/9/2015 9:48 AM, R Dierking wrote:
I dunno about needing to place signs. I've always been a
great fan of Darwinism... If enough folks decide to
travel the road without checking, or decide not to turn
around and go the way that's listed on the website, I kind
of think that's on them... <G>
David Erbas-White
The thing about signs (and believe me, I know about
signs) is that someone has to make them, place them,
and pick them up. The lettering would have to be big
enough, and then there’s placing it; the ground is
really hard along the highway.
The good thing about cones is usually people think
twice before crossing them. Good thing for me because
I use cones when working out in traffic. 😉
*From:* David Reese <mailto:dareese@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2015 9:46 AM
*To:* roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
I use this access road regularly with my truck, and I
imagine a lot of other people do too. It saves a lot
of time.
If there's a need to mark this as "not the entrance",
what if we put up a sign that says "ROC Launch
Entrance ↑" to strongly encourage people to use the
"Cambria Rd" entry? That way, if your vehicle has
clearance for the first road, you can still use it,
but less-experienced folks (i.e., the ones who will
probably get stuck) will go on down to the main road.
The worst cross-road rut is the one right next to 247,
BTW. If you can clear that one you can make it all the
way to the site :-)
--david
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:20 AM, R Dierking
<applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
OK, then maybe this one should be ‘closed’ with
cones or a warning at the turnoff.
If you have never been to a launch before and
coming from the south on the highway, it does look
like it’s the turnoff, and now more tracks
are making this exit more visible. Just don’t
want someone damaging their RV by taking ‘the road
less traveled.’ Cones could be spaced adequately
for people that really want to use the south access.
If the Board would like to do this, I would be
happy to donate about 5 cones and place them, but
I will not be arriving until Saturday morning.
*From:* David Erbas-White
<mailto:derbas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2015 9:19 AM
*To:* roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On 6/9/2015 9:11 AM, R Dierking wrote:
I still would not recommend using the 'new'
(southern) road. Yes, more people are using it,
but I've seen a number of people have 'bottoming
out' damage when I was out there in March/April.
David Erbas-White
I think you can use Google Earth to locate the
coordinates. Also, more people have been using
the turnoff that’s south of the usual one. In
the past, the ruts were bad on this access but
maybe they are better currently.
Sent from Windows Mail
*From:* Jim - TFJ <mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2015 8:53 AM
*To:* roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Does anyone have the GPS coordinates for the
turn off of Hwy 247?
Yes, I know the ones for the rangehead.
Jim G.
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