I was going to place them back from the highway but good point Kurt.
So, I'll stand down on this and we'll see if there are any horror stories.
I'll take the high road and you take the low one and I'll be at ROCstock before
ya.
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On Jun 9, 2015, at 3:35 PM, "Kurt Gugisberg" <kurtgug@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, I guess I left out the "that" and a comma but the way I wrote it is true
too. ;-)
I'm afraid if you put the cones out, people will think that it is the main
entrance and will want to turn there. The cones may actually get more people
stuck. Maybe it is best to leave it as it is and let the people use it who
know it is there and are willing to chance it.
Kurt
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:59 AM, R Dierking <applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
So, it’s official. (Wait a minute…) In keeping with the long-standing “We
don’t need no stinking badges” rule and my past experience with Cal
Trans-type work, I’ll place 5 orange cones with reflectors spaced at 10’
along the “exit”. That way, if someone wants to shoot between them they
can. Also, with enough velocity off the highway, they should get enough air
to clear the tops.
Also, the exit is now the Dodo Turnoff.
Darn it, I should have submitted a dodo holding a Punisher for the ROCstock
T-shirt design. The motto could have been “Doom on You”
LOL, I just noticed your first sentence. I think you missed a punctuation
mark: “Oh, I don’t know about Richard.”
From: Kurt Gugisberg
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 11:41 AM
To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Oh I don't know about Richard. I think that after the first one gets stuck,
no one else could get by. Well maybe the real big idiots. But then do we
want them flying rockets anyway?
Kurt
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:31 AM, R Dierking <applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I just got an image of a bunch of RV’s stacked up at the exit. OMG; thank
you David. LOL
Remember the Dodo scene in the movie Ice Age:
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dodos+in+movie+ice+age&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=077E805EB888E415C59F077E805EB888E415C59F
With everyone’s permission, I would like to name this access, “Dodo Road”
From: David Erbas-White
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 10:22 AM
To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
On 6/9/2015 9:48 AM, R Dierking wrote:
I dunno about needing to place signs. I've always been a great fan of
Darwinism... If enough folks decide to travel the road without checking,
or decide not to turn around and go the way that's listed on the website, I
kind of think that's on them... <G>
David Erbas-White
The thing about signs (and believe me, I know about signs) is that someone
has to make them, place them, and pick them up. The lettering would have
to be big enough, and then there’s placing it; the ground is really hard
along the highway.
The good thing about cones is usually people think twice before crossing
them. Good thing for me because I use cones when working out in traffic.
From: David Reese
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 9:46 AM
To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
I use this access road regularly with my truck, and I imagine a lot of
other people do too. It saves a lot of time.
If there's a need to mark this as "not the entrance", what if we put up a
sign that says "ROC Launch Entrance ↑" to strongly encourage people to use
the "Cambria Rd" entry? That way, if your vehicle has clearance for the
first road, you can still use it, but less-experienced folks
(i.e., the ones who will probably get stuck) will go on down to the main
road.
The worst cross-road rut is the one right next to 247, BTW. If you can
clear that one you can make it all the way to the site :-)
--david
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:20 AM, R Dierking <applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
OK, then maybe this one should be ‘closed’ with cones or a warning at the
turnoff.
If you have never been to a launch before and coming from the south on the
highway, it does look like it’s the turnoff, and now more tracks are
making this exit more visible. Just don’t want someone damaging their RV
by taking ‘the road less traveled.’ Cones could be spaced adequately for
people that really want to use the south access.
If the Board would like to do this, I would be happy to donate about 5
cones and place them, but I will not be arriving until Saturday morning.
From: David Erbas-White
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 9:19 AM
To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
On 6/9/2015 9:11 AM, R Dierking wrote:
I still would not recommend using the 'new' (southern) road. Yes, more
people are using it, but I've seen a number of people have 'bottoming out'
damage when I was out there in March/April.
David Erbas-White
I think you can use Google Earth to locate the coordinates. Also, more
people have been using the turnoff that’s south of the usual one. In the
past, the ruts were bad on this access but maybe they are better currently.
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From: Jim - TFJ
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 8:53 AM
To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Does anyone have the GPS coordinates for the turn off of Hwy 247?
Yes, I know the ones for the rangehead.
Jim G.
