Dear Garry, I find it very flattering , if a trifle disturbing, to be someone's liege lord. The last time it happened was when I got married and the effect hardly lasted out the week. Mind, this was 32 years ago and I have at least had the comfort of a secure position for all that time. In my case it is Wyrm Under Her Feet..... But on to photography before the listboss smites us sorely. Last evening, I took my large format camera and my newly-acquired garden trolley and staggered up to a disused railway tunnel here in the Perth hills. As one does... The purpose was to inaugurate my new series of Gods And Godesses by photographing my friend Bill as Vulcan. The tunnel is all dark and eerie and takes gelled flash light beautifully. Plus Bill's fire twirling wife could dance around about him with vast kerosene torches. Inside the tunnel doesn't risk a bushfire. Ever try to focus on a ground glass screen in a railway tunnel after dark? Thank heavens for pocket torches and laser pointers. Thank heavens for Metz flashes and radio synch too, as it is no fun to string synch cords by feel. Winston O. Link deserves all the admiration we can give him, folks. ( Google up Mr. Link and enjoy yourselves....) One advantage to this sort of setup. You do not need a dark cloth over your head. The results are going to be developed this afternoon. I took all Fuji NPS sheet film, but it occurs to me that several of them may be better seen in B/W. I can always print later in monochrome, but before I soup the NPS I have a silly question. CAn I develop a couple of the film sheets in a B/W developer right from the start, eschew any colour information, and end up with a printable negative? I've never tried the experimant in all my long years....or put another way, I have never yet mistakenly poured B/W chemistry into a tank of C 41 film. What happens if I do? Many thanks for all expected tech replies. I'll keep you posted on when I shoot the Astarte or Venus pictures and you can come along and hold the scrims*. Uncle Dick * And for any who are interested, I might mention that Bill was dressed in a black kilt, sandals, and a light coating of motor oil, carrying a hammer and steel lightning bolt. In view of the motor oil I asked the flame dancers not to come too close, but we did have a CO2 fire extinguisher on hand. ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.