[pure-silver] Re: correction for bellows extension

  • From: `Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2015 11:30:37 -0800



On 3/4/2015 10:07 AM, bonner wrote:
Michael,
For bellows length, are you measuring from front standard to ground glass?

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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: correction for bellows extension

It is real simple: Total length squared divided by the focal length squared 
gives you the factor to multiply the exposure by.

Example: If you have a 12" lens and the bellows is out 20" you have 400 divided 
by 144 for a factor of 3. Being exact with this is not critical.

While the actual measurement is from the rear nodal point of of each lens to 
the other rear nodal point (and the rear nodal points are not always in the 
center of the lens, just measure, as Richard Knoppow wrote, from center of lens 
to center of lens. (This holds with view camera lenses.)

Michael A. Smith


Actually not the nodal point but the exit pupil. For approximate correction you can use the formula I posted earlier. For very precise correction its necessary to know the true focal length of the lens and the location of both entrance and exit pupils. Since focal length is defined in terms of the principle planes measuring the focal length requires knowing those. They are not difficult to measure and I have posted the procedure for measuring true focal length and finding the locations of the principle planes and pupils several times. They should be in the archives of this list. The nodal points are identical to the principle planes or points when the lens is in air. For approximate corrections the focal length can be assumed to be what is marked on the lens and the pupils assumed to be at the center of the barrel. This will work for most standard lenses. For telephoto or reversed telephoto lenses the principle planes and pupils are displaced considerably from the body of the lens so the simplifying assumption can't be made. When a lens is set up for unity magnification its distance from the image plane must be extended exactly one focal length from the infinity focus position. In fact, this is one way of determining the focal length. At this extension the distance is double that at infinity and by the square law the light intensity is 1/2^2 or one forth the intensity at infinity, i.e. two stops. The effective diameter of the stop or pupil is half that at infinity. This ratio holds for all distances. Its possible to use the ratio of magnification of the image as well as focal distance to calculate the effective exposure but, except for larger view cameras, it can be difficult to measure. Exact infinity focus is easy to find on a larger camera by auto-collimation. This requires a flat mirror that will fit over the front of the lens and a small flashlight. The mirror is placed over the lens and the flashlight with perhaps a cardboard pin-hole mask, is place on the ground glass, near, but not exactly at the center. The light from the ground glass is reflected back through the lens by the mirror and will fall near the source. When it is focused the lens is exactly at infinity focus. This can be marked on the camera bed to measure extension but is NOT a measure of focal length since you do not know the location of the rear or second principle plane. All other measurements can be determined from this simple set up.


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