B&H has a large turn over of paper, and film. Have you been able to determine the age on the product you were having problems with? Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charlie Thorsten Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 2:03 PM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Warmtone prints revisited Hi everyone, A while back I had commented about trying to get a good warm tone with Ilford MGFB Warmtone paper. No matter what developer, etc. I used, I still got a relatively white paper base and only a moderately warm print color. I ended up settling on Selectol Soft as the best developer for this project. So anyway, after hearing the news about Ilford, I decided to stock up on as much 16x20 FB WT as I needed to finish this project. I had been buying it locally, but for this large order I called B&H and had them ship 8 50-sheet boxes of the stuff, requesting that they all have the same emulsion number. It arrived the next week. One day I'm printing along happily, listening to some Pink Floyd. I use up the last locally acquired paper and open a box of the new B&H emulsion, process the first test and WHAM!!!! Yellow-brown-warmtone like I'd never seen!! I compared the two prints I had just processed, one after the other (same chemistry, time, etc.) and the color difference was astounding. So it turns out my problem *was* with the paper, which is strange because I had tried THREE different emulsions from three different sources here in Southern California, and they were all relatively neutral tone. It's the New York paper that had the warmtone I was looking for. I guess Ilford's been having quite a bit of production variation at their plant, eh? What do you guys think? -Charlie (As a side note, I tried the new stuff in Agfa Neutol WA and it was almost TOO warm. I'm staying with Selectol Soft. The lower contrast works well with these images.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ======================================================================== ===================================== To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.