[pure-silver] Re: Warmtone prints revisited

  • From: "Jonathan ayers" <jayers@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 18:44:13 -0700

B&H has a large turn over of paper, and film. Have you been able to
determine the age on the product you were having problems with?
Jonathan

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[mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charlie Thorsten
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 2:03 PM
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pure-silver] Warmtone prints revisited

Hi everyone, 

A while back I had commented about trying to
get a good warm tone with Ilford MGFB Warmtone
paper.  No matter what developer, etc. I used,
I still got a relatively white paper base and
only a moderately warm print color.  I ended
up settling on Selectol Soft as the best
developer for this project.

So anyway, after hearing the news about Ilford,
I decided to stock up on as much 16x20 FB WT
as I needed to finish this project.  I had been
buying it locally, but for this large order I
called B&H and had them ship 8 50-sheet boxes
of the stuff, requesting that they all have the
same emulsion number.  It arrived the next week.

One day I'm printing along happily, listening
to some Pink Floyd.  I use up the last locally
acquired paper and open a box of the new B&H
emulsion, process the first test and WHAM!!!!
Yellow-brown-warmtone like I'd never seen!!  
I compared the two prints I had just processed,
one after the other (same chemistry, time, etc.)
and the color difference was astounding.

So it turns out my problem *was* with the paper,
which is strange because I had tried THREE
different emulsions from three different sources
here in Southern California, and they were all
relatively neutral tone.  It's the New York
paper that had the warmtone I was looking for.

I guess Ilford's been having quite a bit of 
production variation at their plant, eh?  What
do you guys think?


-Charlie

(As a side note, I tried the new stuff in Agfa
 Neutol WA and it was almost TOO warm.  I'm
 staying with Selectol Soft.  The lower contrast
 works well with these images.)


                
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