> How do you like the Forte paper? I was considering > trying it if I couldn't get my hands on enough Ilford > to finish this project. What developer do you use > with it? The Forte paper is pretty good overall, and has a nice "look", but it has a few annoying weaknesses: 1) It will not go above contrast 3, no matter what you try. On the other hand, using a color head, this gives you a wide spread of specific contrast levels you can exploit. 2) It take toners beautifully -- but maybe too easily, in that it tones too quickly for my taste. However, for a reason I can't fathom at all, significant amounts of toner effects, primarily selenium, are seen to "wash out" in the wash, believe it or not. When toning in selenium, I always tone well beyond the effect I really want, because after washing, the effect will be much weaker. It's a bit of a crap shoot. 3) Forte has some well-known batch-to-batch inconsistency issues. A few weeks ago, I finished up a box of 50 sheets of 11x14 that I wasn't really happy with. At the same time, I'm most of the way through a box of 16x20 which is terrific; I've just mounted/framed some 16x20s on Forte which I'm giving as gifts this coming weekend. I use Ansco 125 (MQ) or Ansco 130 (equivalently, Fomulary BW65) with very good results. The MQ gives a somewhat "snappier" image. Don Feinberg ducque@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.