Thanks for the suggestion, Ryuji. I have never dabbled in the brown toners, but will have to give one a try. Are there papers that you particularly like these toners with? Do you use them with both warm and neutral/cold toned papers? --Ben ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.