From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: RC to FB Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 18:54:17 -0800 > Such tests were done in the 1930's by Kodak labs although > a rather more extensive set of tests was done at Agfa by > Edyth Wyde. Kodak discovered that alum hardener had much > more effect than the fixer pH. For instance film fixed in > Chrome Alum (Potassium chromium sulfate) washed out as fast > as un-hardened film even though the pH of this fixer is > around 2.0. Results of studies on washing rate should be discussed with careful attention to the condition of the tests. For example, whether the fixing bath was loaded with silver to simulate typical operating condition, or test was run with a fresh fixing bath with little silver load. Whether distilled water, tap water, well water, or other water is used has a very large impact on the efficiency of washing. Tap water in Boston area typically has pH of 9 to 9.2 to prevent copper or other metal leaching out of water pipes from pipes of old buildings. In other areas, this may be different. Based on my literature study and experiments, neutral rapid fixer washes out of film, RC and fiber paper fast enough in my tap water. More importantly, whenever any of this issue is important, citing past researches does not solve the problem and the only way to get the issue done is to run your own test. Sodium sulfide test and silver nitrate test do not give analytical accuracy but as long as you make sure to err on the safer side, their semiquantitative accuracy is good enough, and those tests are very easy to perform in darkroom. -- Ryuji Suzuki "Keep a good head and always carry a light camera." ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.