[pure-silver] Re: Kodak discontinues certain chemicals

  • From: "Tim Rudman" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:26:35 -0000

Richard wrote
" The only notice I've seen so far is the one from Photographer's Formulary
unless someone has seen something on the Kodak site"

Richard, Kodak issued a press release about this. I listed its web reference
for my newsletter but when I sent it out a few days ago I checked the link
and the press release had been taken down. I did a search and turned up a
number of refs to it but in every case I followed up the link had been
broken.
Strange.

Tim

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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Kodak discontinues certain chemicals


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Claudio Bonavolta" <claudio@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 1:02 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Kodak discontinues certain 
chemicals


Huh ! There are various film developers in common sizes for 
amateurs like us !

Xtol, D-76 and HC-110 among others ...

And for Xtol, I checked B&H and Adorama websites and I don't 
see any other package other those that are discontinued (5 
and 50 liters), does it mean Xtol is completely gone ???
As, and except some Ryuji's formulas, there are no real 
replacement for it, this means stocking, stocking, stocking 
...
Or, can we ask Kodak to publish a formula for a reasonable 
replacement ?

Regards,
Claudio Bonavolta
http://www.bonavolta.ch

    I don't know for certain what Kodak is discontinuing and 
what they will continue to make. The only notice I've seen 
so far is the one from Photographer's Formulary unless 
someone has seen something on the Kodak site. I looked a 
couple of weeks ago when I got the news letter from FF but 
could not find any substantiation.
    The chemicals not mentioned in the letter were liquid 
concentrates such as T-Max and the print developer. Its hard 
to believe that Kodak does not sell enough of this stuff to 
justify continuing making it. If not really clever 
management would find a way to farm it out. Maybe, after all 
the propaganda about Kodak continuing to support film it 
will all turn out to be rubbish.
    There are a number of patents that tell how to make some 
of the familiar chemicals, like Kodak Hypo Clearing Agent, 
all sorts of fixers, buffered D-76, etc. Kodak's versions of 
these familar items are not quite the same as published 
formula, where they exist, because Kodak adds sequestering 
agents and other stuff and uses special versions of some of 
the chemicals, for instance to allow packaging everything in 
one container.
     If Kodak stops making chemicals can film be far behind? 
The problem is that Kodak has a great deal of sophisticated 
knowledge which is not shared so probably no one will be 
able to exactly duplicate what they do. Especially true of 
film.

--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

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