[pure-silver] Re: Kodak Discontinuing All Black and White Paper

  • From: "Gene Johnson" <genej2@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 11:55:58 -0700

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From: "richard l. gifford" <rlgif@xxxxxxx>
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 11:20 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Kodak Discontinuing All Black and White Paper


> Right on!!  I saw this coming years ago when Kodak was
> officially sending out iffy vibrations and Ilford made
> a commitment to B&W.  My suggestion at the time was
> that our only hope was to support the company that was
> trying to support us.  We, most certainly including
> many on this list, put Ilford into insolvency by not
> doing so.  I did my part.  Anybody interested in trying
> to save the B&W market this time, or would you rather
> stock up and ride the dead kodak horse while the rest
> die too?  I know, I know, Ilford doesn't make the
> particular paper you love so much.  But they do still
> make paper.  Think about that, folks, and think about
> which way you're going to complain after they die while
> you're printing on the freezer full of kodak you're
> thinking of buying today.  Either way, some day you're
> going to have to learn to live without kodak paper.  Do
> you really want to wake up to a world with no papers at
> all?  Kodak didn't care about you years ago, so why not
> let them eat the paper.
>
> History teaches us that man does not learn from history.
>
> regards...   Dick Gifford
>
> Chuck . wrote:
> > Ralph W. Lambrecht wrote:
> >
> > I suggest to jump ship now and get used to other papers. My money is on
> > Ilford but I wouldn't hesitate to try something else also. The main
point
> > is, we need to buy paper and we need to get into the darkrooms and make
some
> > prints. Otherwise, all we will have left is talking about it.
> >
> > If people would print more, we wouldnt be in this mess.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Ralph W. Lambrecht
>
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> >
> > My Sentiments EXACTLY!
> >
> > Speedy
> >

I think there's going to be somebody making paper as long as we keep
printing on it.  I don't know how big the world market for printing paper
is, but I bet it's still nothing to sneeze at for a lot of smaller size
companies.  And that's who should be in that business now.   Not Kodak, and
maybe not even Ilford.  My guess is that it will all, film and paper, be
made by smaller boutique companies pretty soon. And we should support the
ones who are doing a good job. We'll probably be ordering it all off of
websites. No problem most likely. We may find that small companies will be
more responsive to us and be able to serve our needs better.  I'm not really
worried about it.  I'm still thinking that it's what I do with the material
that makes the picture, much more than what brand of paper or film I'm
using.

Gene
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