From: Jim Brick <jim@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: JandC Pro 100 and 620 film Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:13:09 -0700 > Since Kodak owns a goodly sized chunk of Lucky Film (the largest > Chinese film manufacturer,) there is a really good chance that this > film that you speak of, IS Verichrome Pan. Some of compounds that were very commonly used in early days of Verichrome Pan are made obsolete during 1980s. So the exact formulation of film emulsions of the same name inevitably had to change over time. In that sense Verichrome Pan immediately before its discontinuation is different from the original VP. Even if the film in question is following a certain generation of VP formula, a factor such as change in the size and shape of vessel used to mix the solutions can significantly change the photographic characteristics of the emulsion. Manufacturers face this problem when they take a formula from research to pilot to production plant. Then they face the same problem again when the market demand changes or the plant moves for some other reasons. So the actual emulsion formula may be changing more frequently. (The effect of vessel size itself is obvious in my hands when I make 100ml emulsion or 500ml emulsion. Unless I do something, 500ml emulsion has bigger grain. Based on my reading, modern emulsion plants make a few hundred liters at a time.) On the other hand, judging from the publications by Chinese emulsion scientists and engineers, their level of understanding of the art is far more than the days of Verichrome Pan. They are capable of modern emulsions although they may not have accumulated know-hows of their manufacturing and quality control yet. This is strikingly different from eastern European factories, whose products largely depend on the old German (or whoever's) technology. The incentives to use more modern technology are numerous. Modern ones give better photographic properties and cost less. ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.