p-Diethylaminoaniline sulphate is one of the older color developing agents. You can substitute one of the newer ones say Kodak CD-3 or CD-4 which you can get from most of the photo suppliers like ArtCraft. Sodium formaldehyde sulphoxylate is what you get when you add paraformaldehyde to sodium sulfite. You can make it in situ or it may be available from a supplier who makes lithograph developers. 4-Nitrobenzyl cyanide, acetoacet-2 5-dichloroanilide, 2,4-dicloro-1-naphthol, 1-naphthol are all color couplers. Each produces a different color, for example, 1-naphthol produces a cyan color. You would use only one or maybe two from the list to produce the color you want in the print. You may have to go to a chemical supplier like JT Baker to get these. Jerry -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nick Zentena Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 8:28 PM To: 'pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [pure-silver] Chromogenic toning? Hi, I've been reading "The Photographer's Toning book" and would like to try chromogenic toning. But neither p-Diethylaminoaniline sulphate Sodium formaldehyde sulphoxylate Are on the chemical list of my usual supplier. Can I sub something for these two? Looking at the rest of the formula it gets worse. 4-Nitrobenzyl cyanide Acetoacet-2 5-dichloroanilide 2,4-dicloro-1-naphthol 1-naphthol Should I give up or are these things easily available? Thanks Nick ================================================================================ ============================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.