Here is some more information. Color Couplers -------------- Color Coupler Solvent Concentration -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- blue 1-naphthol alcohol 1 to 2% blue 5-nitro-1-naphthol alcohol 1 to 2% blue-green 2,4-dichloro-1-naphthol alcohol 1 to 2% green pentabromo-naphthol alcohol 3% pale green dichloro-ortho-cresol alcohol 2 to 3% yellow 2,5-dichloro-acetoacetanilide alcohol or acetone 5% yellow ortho-chloro-acetoacetanilide alcohol or acetone 5% yellow-brown cyanoacetanilide alcohol or acetone 1% orange benzoylacetanilide alcohol or acetone 5% red 1,3-5-phenylmethylpyrazolone acetone 3 to 5% magenta para-nitrophenyl acetonitrile alcohol or acetone 5 to 8% Color Developer Kodak CD-1 .............................. 2.5 g Sodium sulfite (anhy) ................... 2.5 g Sodium carbonate (anhy) ................. 15.0 g Potassium thiocyanate, 10% .............. 10.0 ml Color coupler ........................... 5.0 ml Water to make ........................... 1.0 l The developer can be made up beforehand and should keep for about a month. The coupler should be added immediately before use. The print is bleached in any rehalogenizing bleach and redeveloped in the above color developer. After development the print should be bleached again and fixed. Encyclopedia of Photography, Focal Press 1962. The resulting prints are essentially color prints and like them must be protected from exposure to direct sunlight. You could use any of the other color developing agents CD-2, CD-3, CD-4. You could also probably use the developer from the Kodak RA-4 color print process by adding the coupling agent just before use. You would have to experiment. This technology is essentially what was used in the old Kodachrome process. Jerry -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nick Zentena Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 8:28 PM To: 'pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [pure-silver] Chromogenic toning? Hi, I've been reading "The Photographer's Toning book" and would like to try chromogenic toning. But neither p-Diethylaminoaniline sulphate Sodium formaldehyde sulphoxylate Are on the chemical list of my usual supplier. Can I sub something for these two? Looking at the rest of the formula it gets worse. 4-Nitrobenzyl cyanide Acetoacet-2 5-dichloroanilide 2,4-dicloro-1-naphthol 1-naphthol Should I give up or are these things easily available? Thanks Nick ================================================================================ ============================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.