[pure-silver] Re: AW: Re: toxicity

  • From: Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:29:05 -0400

Richard Knoppow wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-David Beyer" <jeandavid8@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: AW: Re: toxicity


Jean-David Beyer wrote:

This is not a new problem. Julia Margaret Cameron, and early photographer (1815 - 1879) used cyanide for a fixer even though Sir John Herschel pleaded with her to use thiosulfate instead. (She did not die of cyanide
poisoning.)

I found the quotation: "that dreadful cyanide of potassium -- letting it run over your hands so profusely -- Pray! Pray! be more cautious."

As you know a variation of the wet plate process was used for years to make negatives for photomechanical half-tone plates. While I doubt if cyanide was used as a fixer, as it was in the early days of the wet plate process

A friend of mine, who was a photoengraver in the 1970s, said they still used wet plates in his shop (supplying half-tone plates for NYC newspapers) and used cyanide fixers for them.

it was used in Monckhoven's Intensifier which also contained mecuric chloride! Monckhoven's has the peculiar property of acting as a reducer for low densities and a strong intensifier for high densities. When used on a half-tone negative it has the effect of sharpening up the edges of the dots.

This is true. They used cyanide for a lot of things. Apparently is is a good cleaner for silver stains too. I would not know. I never wanted either cyanide or mercury salts in my darkroom, or anywhere else, for that matter.

I am not sure when dry plate stripping film was introduced for making half-tones but it was certainly in use by the 1930s eliminating all the hazards and problems with using wet plates. Many workers thought that the old system still produced better plates so continued to use it. Later, perhaps around 1940, Kodak introduced self-screening film which elimiminated the need for the cross-line screen and allowed half-tones to be made in any sufficiently large camera.

True enough, but I never liked the results of the self-screening film, or even those Kodak half-tone contact screens.

So, here I am lecturing the teacher.

Fine with me. I never claimed to know everything.


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