Since you don't remember exactly, I think it is likely that you printed the enlarged proofs at a wider aperture (causing vignetting) than you used for the 8x10 neg. You could try printing the neg at max aperture to see if the falloff is present. greg _____ From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Nelson Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:41 PM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: 8x10 enlarger/enlarging oddity I was printing full neg. Also since i was printing onto foma warmtone, which is incredibly slow, I was probably at a fairly wide aperture. For proofing, the aperture would have varied with the neg densities but since the everything is in a glass carrier, I would approach things without the worry of neg flatness or losing focus anywhere. Proofs were 99.9% on Ilford RC. _____ From: Gregory Popovitch <greg@xxxxxxx> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 5:57 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: 8x10 enlarger/enlarging oddity Hi Eric, When you printed the negative, did you enlarge the whole negative, or just a portion of it (sorry if you mentioned that before, I didn't follow the thread)? It could be the lens falloff. Also possible if you used a wider aperture for the enlarged proofs than for the print from the 8x10 neg. greg _____ From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of richard lahrson Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 5:17 PM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: 8x10 enlarger/enlarging oddity hi! so the negative stage to lens stage is the same? rich On Jan 20, 2012 1:22 PM, "Eric Nelson" <emanmb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: This DeVere is a diffusion enlarger w/4 bright projection lamps aimed into the diffusion chamber. The image size I projected was smaller for the prints than the proofs by an inch or so. I was printing onto 11x14 paper, but that was a common paper size for an enlarged proof. As mentioned the falloff occurred whenever I made enlarged proofs, which were typically from 35mm rolls. Glass neg carrier, place negs in it, close it and stick it in the enlarger. Whether the proofs were 11x14 or 16x20 I'd get the falloff on the 4 corners. When I printed an 8x10 neg w/delicate tones in the sky, there was no falloff at all. Perfectly even. I'm glad of that and the proofing aspect is fast becoming a non-issue as the enlarger's sale date is quickly approaching. It just mystifies me and others here (as well as those on the list it seems) as to why it would happen. I had opened the head up and looked for blockage of one of the lights in the past, but never saw anything that would cause this. I was just hoping that there was some optical or light theory that would explain what I experienced. I can count on one hand the number of 8x10 client negs I needed to enlarge so most of my experience printing 8x10 negs has been of my own. _____ From: Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:31 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: 8x10 enlarger/enlarging oddity That is rather puzzling. Can you think of any difference in the set up between using it to illu...