[project1dev] Re: networking pirate dice woes

  • From: Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:00:31 -0800

Separate script to choose a game makes total sense, that seems like the good
way to do it yeah (:

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Kent Petersen <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks for going over it. I have an idea of where I want to go now.
> I like your idea of trying to get a chat window to work first.
> Ok, chat window concept.
> so for my first step, I should be able to recreate your chat lobby but make
> it so you can select from a list of all the available game rooms?
> Do you think it would be easier to make a seperate map that does this and
> combine em together or should I start throwing more code into the pirate
> dice scripts?
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hey Kent,
>> BTW you know what might be easiest would be to get the chat portion of a
>> pirate dice room working first.
>> that way you could join or create a pirate dice game, go in there and
>> start chatting with people.
>> once you know that is working, the only difference for actually doing the
>> game stuff would be making it send other messages besides the "chat"
>> message.
>> like youd have messages for bets being raised, hands being folded etc
>> instead of only chat.
>> but, getting chat working you know all the network voodoo is working right
>> so you dont have to worry about that going into the more complex stuff
>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Kent Petersen <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Ok. Let's see here. Maybe if I write it out and discuss it I will be able
>>> to make myself an outline or some framework to work with.
>>> Let's say I wanted to add networking to piratedice. What would I need to
>>> do?
>>> Before the game initilizes it will need connect connect to the game
>>> server. This will need to check to see if there is a server. If it is there
>>> connect. If not create one.
>>> The game server will then need to wait for a full game. so it would need
>>> to know how many players should join (arbitrarily 4) and how many it has.
>>> Each player joining would need to send the information that they joined to
>>> the server.
>>> After the game has enough playersit will then need to initialize the game
>>> and draw the interface. For this part each player would just do thier thing
>>> individually right? After all the players are loaded and the game is ready
>>> to begin all of the players will need to send their player information to
>>> the server. Then each player would send their dice roll to the server and
>>> also their name, player number, and amount of gold. All of this information
>>> would then get sent back to the players.
>>> Player 1s turn. First player is also blinds so they will need to send
>>> that amount to the server. The server then passes this info back to the
>>> other players. Player1 then decides what they have in their hand. Calls,
>>> raises, or folds. Player 1 makes their choices and ends their turn
>>> Player 1s choice get's sent to the server. Server sends the choice to the
>>> players.
>>> Player 2s turn... repeat for player 2
>>> Does this sound right?
>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>> Well I'm not sure if this clears much up or not but you don't need to
>>>> create a server AND join a server, you either do one or the other.
>>>> If you want to join an existing game you join it
>>>> if you want to make a new game you create it (which joins it
>>>> automatically after you create it)
>>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Kent Petersen <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>> Ok, so ultimately, I want to add networking to pirate dice.
>>>>> First, should I try getting a networking script working on its own? At
>>>>> first I was just trying to add the code to pirate dice. Pirate Dice's code
>>>>> can get a little confusing especially when it comes to the starting
>>>>> initization code (because it does it 2x!?). So this whole thing got really
>>>>> confusing really quickly.
>>>>> Then, I was trying to make something simple like you log on and it
>>>>> tells you, you log on but I just couldn't piece together the info. I 
>>>>> guess a
>>>>> little step by step guide would be more helpful? Like you need to login,
>>>>> create a game server, connect to the server, send message, receive message
>>>>> (even if its just a variable) but when it comes to coding it I keep 
>>>>> getting
>>>>> confused.
>>>>> I think... I'm still just confused
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>> well hrm, what kind of problems are you having? i might be able to
>>>>>> help you out by explaining better
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Kent Petersen <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>> I still seem to be having a problem trying to figure out how to use
>>>>>>> the commands. Can you possibly make a different kind of network script 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> I can also use for reference?
>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Kent Petersen <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>> I think that helps. I will take another stab at it next chance I
>>>>>>>> get.
>>>>>>>> You are welcome to take and delegate tasks that are needed. If
>>>>>>>> something becomes urgent scripting-wise let me know.
>>>>>>>> I did see the commands in the scripting help but I did not find the
>>>>>>>> documents very helpful. They explained the variables and values but I
>>>>>>>> couldn't really figure out how to use the commands.
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Alan Wolfe 
>>>>>>>> <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hey Kent,
>>>>>>>>> Totally understandable about your shift in time usage.  I figure
>>>>>>>>> i'll take on some of the scripting tasks but leave the important 
>>>>>>>>> stuff like
>>>>>>>>> networked pirate dice to you.
>>>>>>>>> If anything becomes uber important and you dont have time to do it,
>>>>>>>>> i have no problem takin it over so we should be fine (:
>>>>>>>>> Ok, about the network stuff hrmms...
>>>>>>>>> #1 - GetServerList: well first things first, i added the network
>>>>>>>>> script functions to the script help documents.  Have you seen those?  
>>>>>>>>> If so
>>>>>>>>> were they not too helpful?  If not let me know, maybe i need to 
>>>>>>>>> document
>>>>>>>>> things better.
>>>>>>>>> Anyhow, GetServerList is only useful for searching for existing
>>>>>>>>> servers.  Theres another function for creating servers but you are 
>>>>>>>>> right,
>>>>>>>>> you would change the string to PirateDice and thats all you need to 
>>>>>>>>> do to
>>>>>>>>> make it work for pirate dice.
>>>>>>>>> #2 - SendChat: yeah this is the only place it sends to the server.
>>>>>>>>>  For the success thing, basically what thats about is every network 
>>>>>>>>> function
>>>>>>>>> returns whether or not it was successful.  If it wasn't, you should 
>>>>>>>>> display
>>>>>>>>> an error message to the player and then bail out of the game.  The 
>>>>>>>>> reasons
>>>>>>>>> it wouldnt be successful is like if they unplugged their internet 
>>>>>>>>> cable or
>>>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>>>> #3 - OnNetworkMessage: This guy is called by the game whenever it
>>>>>>>>> receives a network message from the server.  How network messages 
>>>>>>>>> work is
>>>>>>>>> you send a message to the server which consists of "MessageName" and
>>>>>>>>> "MessageValue".  After it gets to the server, the server sends it 
>>>>>>>>> down to
>>>>>>>>> all of the clients, including the person who sent the message in the 
>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>> place.  OnNetworkMessage is called once for each message received so 
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> you can respond to the message (like if someone raised a bet, you can 
>>>>>>>>> update
>>>>>>>>> the pot size).  Everyone receives messages in the same order (:
>>>>>>>>> Since messages have both a name and a value you can do something
>>>>>>>>> like all chat messages have the message name "Chat" and all message 
>>>>>>>>> values
>>>>>>>>> are what the person typed for chat.
>>>>>>>>> For when anyone takes a turn you might make a message named
>>>>>>>>> "TakeTurn" and then have the message value be something like "call", 
>>>>>>>>> "fold",
>>>>>>>>> "raise 10" etc.
>>>>>>>>> OnNetworkMessage also receives messages when players join or leave.
>>>>>>>>> Also each network message (i think... going from memory) give you
>>>>>>>>> both the name of the player, as well as a "PlayerID" which is a 
>>>>>>>>> unique ID#
>>>>>>>>> associated with that player (if its ever useful to know, this ID# is 
>>>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>>> the same for the same player, it's like an account number).
>>>>>>>>> Does this help at all?
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Kent Petersen 
>>>>>>>>> <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Tonight is the first time I really spent any time on the network
>>>>>>>>>> code and let me tell you I am confused as hell. If I follow along 
>>>>>>>>>> the lobby
>>>>>>>>>> code I can make enough sense of it but when it comes time for me to 
>>>>>>>>>> recreate
>>>>>>>>>> it I can't get shit to work right. I can get it to log in to a 
>>>>>>>>>> server by
>>>>>>>>>> copying the "Join chat server" section of the lobby code but I don't 
>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>> understand what to do from there.
>>>>>>>>>> Here are some questions off the top of my head
>>>>>>>>>> in the "Join chat server" section I think I would want to change
>>>>>>>>>> GameServer_GetServerList("Chat") to GameServer_GetServerList("Pirate 
>>>>>>>>>> Dice")
>>>>>>>>>> I think this would cause the game to join the game server Pirate
>>>>>>>>>> Dice. Am I right?
>>>>>>>>>> is the function SendChat the only point in the code where the
>>>>>>>>>> player can send information to the server? I don't really get the 
>>>>>>>>>> success=
>>>>>>>>>> part?
>>>>>>>>>> I also don't really understand the OnNetworkMessage part. I think
>>>>>>>>>> it has something to do with sending messages to the server and out 
>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>> players but I don't see how it does it. I understand that the bottom 
>>>>>>>>>> portion
>>>>>>>>>> of OnNetworkMessage is updating the chatroom. Pirate Dice should 
>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>> have an in game chat.
>>>>>>>>>> I want to start Pirate Dice. Have a button for join network game.
>>>>>>>>>> This will look through for a list of servers and then create one if 
>>>>>>>>>> there is
>>>>>>>>>> nothing available. Like the lobby, I believe. Pirate Dice will then 
>>>>>>>>>> begin as
>>>>>>>>>> it does now.
>>>>>>>>>> Somehow I want the players name and ID to be assigned to the
>>>>>>>>>> player value. For example Player1 will say Atrix.
>>>>>>>>>> Somehow I want the players game choices to get sent to the server
>>>>>>>>>> and back to the players. The information that should be sent would, 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> choice they made (raise, bluff, call), what they have in their hand 
>>>>>>>>>> (pair,
>>>>>>>>>> three of a kind), and any money information (amount raised, raising 
>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>> called amount)
>>>>>>>>>> Between work and school I just don't have a lot of time to invest
>>>>>>>>>> right now. So this is mostly for discussion and to get my brain 
>>>>>>>>>> thinking. I
>>>>>>>>>> love working on this stuff I do it for fun and relaxation these 
>>>>>>>>>> days. I
>>>>>>>>>> might be able to squeeze some time in on the weekends or if I 
>>>>>>>>>> finally get
>>>>>>>>>> ahead on homework. The workload will definitely drop as I get the 
>>>>>>>>>> hang of my
>>>>>>>>>> job and as I finish off my internet classes.
>>>>>>>>>> Any help is greatly appreciated.

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