reminds me of a saying an engineer used; "but... I cut it three times and it's still too short!"alright, I hear you, *sigh* this a bit on the ridiculous side, its a set of programs, they should... have been made to install and uninstall simply with the only interlocking reaction being that if you use a data base with an application, and you remove the mssql application you can't use the database with a project made in the IDE.
ah well, I guess its time to listen to the voice of experience. thanks, inthane----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 1:48 AM Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress
Hi Inthane:I found the MSDN Article on removing Sql Server Express 2005, at least the main components it did not address the Advanced Tools package if I remember. It had a series of steps which implied to me a sequence of events. I remember in 2004 when trying to remove 2005 version hhaving some problems because I did not follow a sequence of removing items. I don't know if this is still the case since my original version was a Beta version but it sounded like it to me when I saw the article. I could not find a similar article quickly about uninstalling Sql Server 2008 though I imagine it would be very similar. I am hesitant to recommend any sequence because of the potential system related problems that might occur if the whole thing goes horribly wrong. I saw articles about running 2005 and 2008 versions side by side so that might have been a better option, don't know. They told me to delete my Operating System and ReLoad Windows XP from scratch to fix my computer after I balled it up messing with the Beta UnInstall of Sql Server and Visual Studio Express 2005. I found a program like one of you put up that removed all the hanging modules, went through and manually deleted everything related to those applications and then had to use a video, ISO, version to ReLoad something, I don't even remember what it was, to get things working without completely rebuilding the Windows Operating System. I have been very careful about just UnInstalling anything since that experience.Measure twice, cut once! Rick USA----- Original Message ----- From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:18 AM Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpressI would need to look it up myself, lol.I still work in VB 6, and have poked the tip of a pinky into the .net IDE's, though I've collected some info which I share as I can.but that doesn't include anything on removal sequencing, but if your removing it all, well, I won't say it doesn't matter, but I would think it not to significant. please let me know if I am wrong, OK?sorry I can't be of more direct help, inthane----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:01 PM Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpressHi. okay,m will do that, once i get the installation problems worked out.okay, so to short cut, which programming do i uninstall in order, instead ofhaving to spend a couple of hours to search for uninstallation order on google. cheers Marvin. ps: would be helpful. cheers Marvin.----- Original Message ----- From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:40 AM Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpressMarvin, once you get the installation issue resolved, ask me and I will giveyou a method that may shortcut the reworking of the projects for you, alright! take care, inthane----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:26 AM Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpressHi. rick.now, yes, uses the sql server 2008, and i think, sql server 2008 did not like some of the sql databases that i got off the net, for the book, offthe cd i was provided, and yep, need to use sql server 2005, and vb.dot net 2005.and got a lot of my in class exercises on cd, so can copy them back over. the main problem, is that i do not have a spare 100 hours to redo all the chapters, and the examples and the case studies and the exericses you werehelping me with, unless, i go in and save the code modules and thedocuments then i could then rebuild all the examples, and the exericsesand the case studies, just rebuild the interfaces.then just copy and paste the code back in, so that would be a quicker wayto go about that. so what would you recommend this course of action?should i go down that route, uninstall vs 2008, and then install the 2005and what do you recommend. if i did it this way, would short cut a lot of time and effort, and quickly able to rebuild the applications for the chapters in the book, the examples, exercises and case studies. okay, if you recommend that route, then suggest that to me.my lecturer is using 2005, and the book is using 2005, the only reason whyi got 2008, was that i did not have internet access, and a adaptive tech person, who sold me jaws in tasmania, burned a copy of vs 2008 in the first place, even though i did request 2005. oh well, lessons learned. okay let me know. what i should do and proceed from here onwards. cheers Marvin.----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress Hi Inthane:If that's the case he has a problem. My guess he will have to remove the2008 modules, and then load up some version of 2005. I remember he also wasmessing with the DataBases so that might be problematic as well dependingonwhich version he ended up using. The last thing I can think of is that heuses Access DataBases instead of the Sql Server DataBases as defined in hisProjects and that might cause problems for his Instructor as well if he is not familiar with their setup and use. My guess the only way he is goingto get it working is to work directly with his Instructor to match up theversions of everything if he is to just send him a Project to load up and review per the original Course and Project requirements. I don't think I have any answers except to find out what his Instructor recommends. Soundslike he will have to uninstall everything 2008 including the DataBase systems. Then install everything that came with the original course andReWrite his applications using the correct languages and DataBases if he wants to be in sync with the rest of the class. Other than that I wouldn'trecommend doing all that removing and ReInstallation as it might cause some real headaches if not done in the correct order. Rick USA----- Original Message ----- From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:55 AM Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpressI think, if I have it straight, that his instructor is using VB 2005, andcan't open the files he is making in 2008, backwards compatibility isalright in general with MS, but the reverse usually doesn't work, and I donot believe MS has made anything akin to the "MSO Viewers" that enablefolks to open and save a newer version of say a word document in an olderformat so someone with the older office versions can use it. regards, the elf----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:22 AM Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpressMarv: Before you attempt Downloading 2005 over 2008. What was the explicit problem you could not resolve in 2008? Were you having the problem in VWD or in Vb.net Winforms?What statement was giving you the error which your instructor said wasdue to the language version problem?I really do not think the language version would cause you any problems unless you are copying and pasting code into a config file. So, tell mewhat statement is not working so I can check it out. Rick USA----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:50 PM Subject: RE: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpressThen he is doing something really weird. The fact is I have moved lotsofprograms over from things I have ben playing with now that I have 2008and nothing has had problems. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:32 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress HI.well, the in class exercises and examples, are the lecturers, and had alook on the hard disk and on the cd. well, that is what he says. and think will only work in 2005. cheers Marvin.----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: RE: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpressYour instructor is a fool. They should work fine in 2008. There isnot that big a language wise in VB .net 2005 and 2008. The errors your having are most likely typing errors. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:21 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress Hi.got a whole heap of examples, for my programming class, exercises,a nddid them in vb dot net 2005. but converted them to all vb dot net 2008, but some of them are not working and got errors. did e-mail my lecturer, and he says, that the book they are using in class is for vb dot net 2005, and i am using 2008.so, where can i download vb dot net 2005 express, and also is there a conversion utility to convert from vb.dot net 2008 to 2005, as a wholeof a lot of exercises i did for the chapter book examples and some of theexercises and case studies, in vb dot net 2008, and do not have time togoand recreate them in vb dot net 2005, if i can get my hands on a copy?have tried searching on google, and went to the msdn site, but tried looking, but cannot find any thing at all. got any ideas? cheers Marvin. __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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