Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress

  • From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:32:32 -0700

I'm not sure it's all the instructor on this one, laura.

Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield
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----- Original Message ----- From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress


I don't have any helpful hints to add, but just can't believe his instructor
would require the older version in the first place. Sounds like a major
headache to put a student through.  Sorry, but no kudos to your
instructor...
Good luck.
--le


----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress


Hi Marv:
Don't forget to get the necessary info to rebuild the DataBases for any
projects that use them if you need to use them.
It might just be easier to manually rebuild them in any case.
Remember to coordinate all this with your Instructor, if you get really
stuck he might be the only person with enough information to pull you
through the entire process.
Good luck.
Rick USA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress


   Hi.
will do that and ask him about that.
what to install for 2005, once i google the right order to uninstall and
ask
my lecturer once i have got vs 2008 uninstalled in the right oreder, then
check in control panel, then might do a search on my computer for any vs
2008, and any vs 2005 modules left, then hopefully uninstall them.
cheers and thanks for your help.
ps: okay, will go and then write down the control names and the values for
each project, then copy and paste the code or save it as text files, in
the
same folder, so then can go and get them and rebuild, or put them in a
special folder.
okay, then that will be quicker, well, chapter 1, 2, 3, for the exercises
and the case studies, and then examples for chapter 4 to 14, and i think,
i
will probably have to rebuild the web application as well.
and in the class exercises, the lecturer did not cover vwd, not necessary,
or not essential for the course.
and okay, will then recopy my assignments, tests, practice test and in
class
exercises, as had converted them to 2008, so can then have the 2005
versions.
okay thanks for your help.
will keep you posted.
cheers Marvin.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress


Hi Marv: I think you will need to remove the 2008 Sql Server modules and
the
2008 programming Language modules before trying to install the 2005
versions
but I'm not sure.
I do not tthink removing the Language Modules will be a problem so long as
you get rid of everything related to them correctly. Getting rid of the
2008
Sql Server DataBase Modules, and any old 2005 Sql Server Modules that
might
impact your clean download might be a little more tricky though. I think
you
need to UnInstall them in the proper order or you might end up with some
problems. I do not remember the correct order. You can Google on the
correct
procedure to UnInstall the Language Modules and the Sql Server Modules.
Once
you get your machine clean, and you will have to check in the Control
Panel
to make sure all modules are removed against a list of modules to be
removed
from your research, you can likely copy and paste your vb code into the
appropriate text editor if you name the controls the same as the original
project. I think you might have to rebuild the controls except the VWD
controls which are standard html and MS thingys that might be ok. That's
about the best I can figure out. It sounds like something to do carefully
and might take some time even if all goes well getting set up. Good luck,
it
sounds like you have allot of work to do.
Keep in touch with your Instructor to keep him informed on your progress
so
he can give you more detail advice on getting set up once you are clean of
the 2008 modules.
Rick USA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:26 AM
Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress


       Hi.
rick.
now, yes, uses the sql server 2008, and i think, sql server 2008 did not
like some of the sql databases that i got off the net, for the book, off
the
cd i was provided, and yep, need to use sql server 2005, and vb.dot net
2005.
and got a lot of my in class exercises on cd, so can copy them back over. the main problem, is that i do not have a spare 100 hours to redo all the chapters, and the examples and the case studies and the exericses you wer
ehelping me with, unless, i go in and save the code modules and the
documents then  i could then rebuild all the examples, and the exericses
and
the case studies, just rebuild the interfaces.
then just copy and paste the code back in, so that would be a quicker way
to
go about that.
so what would you recommend this course of action?
should i go down that route, uninstall vs 2008, and then install the 2005
and what do you recommend.
if i did it this way, would short cut a lot of time and effort, and
quickly
able to rebuild the applications for the chapters in the book, the
examples,
exercises and case studies.
okay, if you recommend that route, then suggest that to me.
my lecturer is using 2005, and the book is using 2005, the only reason
why
i
got 2008, was that i did not have internet access, and a adaptive tech
person, who sold me jaws in tasmania, burned a copy of vs 2008 in the
first
place, even though i did request 2005.
oh well, lessons learned.
okay let me know.
what i should do and proceed from here onwards.
cheers Marvin.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress


Hi Inthane:
If that's the case he has a problem. My guess he will have to remove the
2008 modules, and then load up some version of 2005. I remember he also
was
messing with the DataBases so that might be problematic as well depending
on
which version he ended up using. The last thing I can think of is that he
uses Access DataBases instead of the Sql Server DataBases as defined in
his
Projects and that might cause problems for his Instructor as well if he
is
not familiar with their setup and use. My guess the only way he is going
to
get it working is to work directly with his Instructor to match up the
versions of everything if he is to just send him a Project to load up and
review per the original Course and Project requirements. I don't think I
have any answers except to find out what his Instructor recommends.
Sounds
like he will have to uninstall everything 2008 including the DataBase
systems. Then install everything that came with the original course and
ReWrite his applications using the correct languages and DataBases if he
wants to be in sync with the rest of the class. Other than that I
wouldn't
recommend doing all that removing and ReInstallation as it might cause
some
real headaches if not done in the correct order.
Rick USA
----- Original Message ----- From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress


I think, if I have it straight, that his instructor is using VB 2005, and
can't open the files he is making in 2008, backwards compatibility is
alright in general with MS, but the reverse usually doesn't work, and I
do
not believe MS has made anything akin to the "MSO Viewers" that enable
folks to open and save a newer version of say a word document in an older
format so someone with the older office versions can use it.

regards,
the elf
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress


Marv:
Before you attempt Downloading 2005 over 2008. What was the explicit
problem you could not resolve in 2008?
Were you having the problem in VWD or in Vb.net Winforms?
What statement was giving you the error which your instructor said was
due to the language version problem?
I really do not think the language version would cause you any problems unless you are copying and pasting code into a config file. So, tell me
what statement is not working so I can check it out.
Rick USA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:50 PM
Subject: RE: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress




Then he is doing something really weird.  The fact is I have moved
lots
of
programs over from things I have ben playing with now that I have 2008
and
nothing has had problems.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marvin
Hunkin
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:32 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress

       HI.
well, the in class exercises and examples, are the lecturers, and had
a
look

on the hard disk and on the cd.
well, that is what he says.
and think will only work in 2005.
cheers Marvin.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:15 AM
Subject: RE: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress




Your  instructor is a fool.  They should work fine in 2008.  There is
not
that big a language wise in VB .net 2005 and 2008.  The errors your
having
are most likely typing errors.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marvin
Hunkin
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:21 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress

Hi.
got a whole heap of examples, for my programming class, exercises,a nd
did
them in vb dot net 2005.
but converted them to all vb dot net 2008, but some of them are not
working
and got errors.
did e-mail my lecturer, and he says, that the book they are using in
class
is for vb dot net 2005, and i am using 2008.
so, where can i download vb dot net 2005 express, and also is there a
conversion utility to convert from vb.dot net 2008 to 2005, as a whole
of a
lot of exercises i did for the chapter book examples and some of the
exercises and case studies, in vb dot net 2008, and do not have time
to
go
and recreate them in vb dot net 2005, if i can get my hands on a copy?
have tried searching on google, and went to the msdn site, but tried
looking, but cannot find any thing at all.
got any ideas?
cheers Marvin.


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