Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress
- From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:44:14 -0600
I don't have any helpful hints to add, but just can't believe his instructor
would require the older version in the first place. Sounds like a major
headache to put a student through. Sorry, but no kudos to your
instructor...
Good luck.
--le
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress
Hi Marv:
Don't forget to get the necessary info to rebuild the DataBases for any
projects that use them if you need to use them.
It might just be easier to manually rebuild them in any case.
Remember to coordinate all this with your Instructor, if you get really
stuck he might be the only person with enough information to pull you
through the entire process.
Good luck.
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress
> Hi.
> will do that and ask him about that.
> what to install for 2005, once i google the right order to uninstall and
> ask
> my lecturer once i have got vs 2008 uninstalled in the right oreder, then
> check in control panel, then might do a search on my computer for any vs
> 2008, and any vs 2005 modules left, then hopefully uninstall them.
> cheers and thanks for your help.
> ps: okay, will go and then write down the control names and the values for
> each project, then copy and paste the code or save it as text files, in
> the
> same folder, so then can go and get them and rebuild, or put them in a
> special folder.
> okay, then that will be quicker, well, chapter 1, 2, 3, for the exercises
> and the case studies, and then examples for chapter 4 to 14, and i think,
> i
> will probably have to rebuild the web application as well.
> and in the class exercises, the lecturer did not cover vwd, not necessary,
> or not essential for the course.
> and okay, will then recopy my assignments, tests, practice test and in
> class
> exercises, as had converted them to 2008, so can then have the 2005
> versions.
> okay thanks for your help.
> will keep you posted.
> cheers Marvin.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:38 PM
> Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress
>
>
> Hi Marv: I think you will need to remove the 2008 Sql Server modules and
> the
> 2008 programming Language modules before trying to install the 2005
> versions
> but I'm not sure.
> I do not tthink removing the Language Modules will be a problem so long as
> you get rid of everything related to them correctly. Getting rid of the
> 2008
> Sql Server DataBase Modules, and any old 2005 Sql Server Modules that
> might
> impact your clean download might be a little more tricky though. I think
> you
> need to UnInstall them in the proper order or you might end up with some
> problems. I do not remember the correct order. You can Google on the
> correct
> procedure to UnInstall the Language Modules and the Sql Server Modules.
> Once
> you get your machine clean, and you will have to check in the Control
> Panel
> to make sure all modules are removed against a list of modules to be
> removed
> from your research, you can likely copy and paste your vb code into the
> appropriate text editor if you name the controls the same as the original
> project. I think you might have to rebuild the controls except the VWD
> controls which are standard html and MS thingys that might be ok. That's
> about the best I can figure out. It sounds like something to do carefully
> and might take some time even if all goes well getting set up. Good luck,
> it
> sounds like you have allot of work to do.
> Keep in touch with your Instructor to keep him informed on your progress
> so
> he can give you more detail advice on getting set up once you are clean of
> the 2008 modules.
> Rick USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:26 AM
> Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress
>
>
>> Hi.
>> rick.
>> now, yes, uses the sql server 2008, and i think, sql server 2008 did not
>> like some of the sql databases that i got off the net, for the book, off
>> the
>> cd i was provided, and yep, need to use sql server 2005, and vb.dot net
>> 2005.
>> and got a lot of my in class exercises on cd, so can copy them back over.
>> the main problem, is that i do not have a spare 100 hours to redo all the
>> chapters, and the examples and the case studies and the exericses you wer
>> ehelping me with, unless, i go in and save the code modules and the
>> documents then i could then rebuild all the examples, and the exericses
>> and
>> the case studies, just rebuild the interfaces.
>> then just copy and paste the code back in, so that would be a quicker way
>> to
>> go about that.
>> so what would you recommend this course of action?
>> should i go down that route, uninstall vs 2008, and then install the 2005
>> and what do you recommend.
>> if i did it this way, would short cut a lot of time and effort, and
>> quickly
>> able to rebuild the applications for the chapters in the book, the
>> examples,
>> exercises and case studies.
>> okay, if you recommend that route, then suggest that to me.
>> my lecturer is using 2005, and the book is using 2005, the only reason
>> why
>> i
>> got 2008, was that i did not have internet access, and a adaptive tech
>> person, who sold me jaws in tasmania, burned a copy of vs 2008 in the
>> first
>> place, even though i did request 2005.
>> oh well, lessons learned.
>> okay let me know.
>> what i should do and proceed from here onwards.
>> cheers Marvin.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress
>>
>>
>> Hi Inthane:
>> If that's the case he has a problem. My guess he will have to remove the
>> 2008 modules, and then load up some version of 2005. I remember he also
>> was
>> messing with the DataBases so that might be problematic as well depending
>> on
>> which version he ended up using. The last thing I can think of is that he
>> uses Access DataBases instead of the Sql Server DataBases as defined in
>> his
>> Projects and that might cause problems for his Instructor as well if he
>> is
>> not familiar with their setup and use. My guess the only way he is going
>> to
>> get it working is to work directly with his Instructor to match up the
>> versions of everything if he is to just send him a Project to load up and
>> review per the original Course and Project requirements. I don't think I
>> have any answers except to find out what his Instructor recommends.
>> Sounds
>> like he will have to uninstall everything 2008 including the DataBase
>> systems. Then install everything that came with the original course and
>> ReWrite his applications using the correct languages and DataBases if he
>> wants to be in sync with the rest of the class. Other than that I
>> wouldn't
>> recommend doing all that removing and ReInstallation as it might cause
>> some
>> real headaches if not done in the correct order.
>> Rick USA
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress
>>
>>
>>>I think, if I have it straight, that his instructor is using VB 2005, and
>>>can't open the files he is making in 2008, backwards compatibility is
>>>alright in general with MS, but the reverse usually doesn't work, and I
>>>do
>>>not believe MS has made anything akin to the "MSO Viewers" that enable
>>>folks to open and save a newer version of say a word document in an older
>>>format so someone with the older office versions can use it.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> the elf
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ricks Place" <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:22 AM
>>> Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress
>>>
>>>
>>>> Marv:
>>>> Before you attempt Downloading 2005 over 2008. What was the explicit
>>>> problem you could not resolve in 2008?
>>>> Were you having the problem in VWD or in Vb.net Winforms?
>>>> What statement was giving you the error which your instructor said was
>>>> due to the language version problem?
>>>> I really do not think the language version would cause you any problems
>>>> unless you are copying and pasting code into a config file. So, tell me
>>>> what statement is not working so I can check it out.
>>>> Rick USA
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:50 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then he is doing something really weird. The fact is I have moved
>>>>> lots
>>>>> of
>>>>> programs over from things I have ben playing with now that I have 2008
>>>>> and
>>>>> nothing has had problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marvin
>>>>> Hunkin
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:32 PM
>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: Re: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress
>>>>>
>>>>> HI.
>>>>> well, the in class exercises and examples, are the lecturers, and had
>>>>> a
>>>>> look
>>>>>
>>>>> on the hard disk and on the cd.
>>>>> well, that is what he says.
>>>>> and think will only work in 2005.
>>>>> cheers Marvin.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:15 AM
>>>>> Subject: RE: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Your instructor is a fool. They should work fine in 2008. There is
>>>>> not
>>>>> that big a language wise in VB .net 2005 and 2008. The errors your
>>>>> having
>>>>> are most likely typing errors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marvin
>>>>> Hunkin
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:21 AM
>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: visual basic dot net 2005 esxpress
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>> got a whole heap of examples, for my programming class, exercises,a nd
>>>>> did
>>>>> them in vb dot net 2005.
>>>>> but converted them to all vb dot net 2008, but some of them are not
>>>>> working
>>>>> and got errors.
>>>>> did e-mail my lecturer, and he says, that the book they are using in
>>>>> class
>>>>> is for vb dot net 2005, and i am using 2008.
>>>>> so, where can i download vb dot net 2005 express, and also is there a
>>>>> conversion utility to convert from vb.dot net 2008 to 2005, as a whole
>>>>> of a
>>>>> lot of exercises i did for the chapter book examples and some of the
>>>>> exercises and case studies, in vb dot net 2008, and do not have time
>>>>> to
>>>>> go
>>>>> and recreate them in vb dot net 2005, if i can get my hands on a copy?
>>>>> have tried searching on google, and went to the msdn site, but tried
>>>>> looking, but cannot find any thing at all.
>>>>> got any ideas?
>>>>> cheers Marvin.
>>>>>
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