Hahahah. Yaa, mac's are pretty spendy. I generally like voice over though, it sounds pretty good, and it's way cheaper than buying JAWS. I think you can get a macbook for about a grand now, though, which is still painful (especially for students), but not as bad as it could be. It's too bad apple doesn't have anything like ATOM on PC though, cheap alternatives that are essentially good enough for anything but gaming. -- Andreas Stefik, Ph.D. Department of Computer Science Southern Illinois University Edwardsville