This usually happends in case of iT specialists, not the public.I was also using the keyboard very much when I was sighted, even in programs used for creating graphics, like Corel Draw, but these cases are only exceptions that confirm the rule.
Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Harmon" <rickharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service
Sorry, I know a couple of fully sighted that use the keyboard more than themouse. keyboard commands are quicker than the mouse is and indeed some sighted users know this. Rick----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service Well, I am pretty sure that there are no sighted users that use only thekeyboard. For most of the sighted, if the computer doesn't have a mouse, isnot usable. I use Jaws and Jaws used to define those hotkeys in older versions, and I prefer them to the single letter hotkeys that could be used to jump to the form elements. If I remember well, in the latest versions of Jaws, FS disabled some of them, or replaced some of them with calls to other unuseful functions, but I've replaced them back. Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX serviceThis of course assumes you are using a screen reader that defines these hotkeys. He said sighted keyboard-only users -- honestly I don't know if there are many of those... --le----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:34 AM Subject: Re: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service Well, I use to use Control+insert+home to set the focus to the first form field, then jump around with Control+Insert+tab. It works for all the web sites, so it is easier to use than any other hotkey defined. Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Garaventa" <bgaraventa11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:09 AM Subject: Re: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service Thanks, the alt+s hotkey was mainly designed for keyboard only users who may wish for a quick method to jump back into the search edit field from within the page content. This prevents the need for excessive tabbing and scrolling for sighted users.----- Original Message ----- From: tribbleTo: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:12 PM Subject: Re: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX serviceNice site. I really like the headers that let me skip to where I need togo without wading through all of the fluff.It would be nice if some of the lists of links were marked by a header aswell, so I can navigate through the whole thing typing h. But then you have a hotkey for that block (I think). In general I would prefer avoiding adding any more hotkeys for use just by a page for the reasons that they might conflict with some screen reader or script commands, and also because it is hard to keep track of all the hotkeys we as blind persons have to memorize to access windows. One question: Why the alt+S hotkey when browser searches already search edit fields? Guess I should play around with it more and see the difference. Nice job though. Is this going to be adopted by amazon perchance? Whom do you work for? --le----- Original Message ----- From: Bryan GaraventaTo: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:24 PM Subject: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service Hopefully this isn't off topic, but I need beta testers from the blind community if anyone is interested. The service is an AJAX driven Amazon.com search engine, which is now live at http://gutterstar.net/amazon.php It includes quite a few accessibility enhancements, including focus redirection when new pages load, and the following hotkey shortcuts: Alt+S = Search edit field. Alt+` = The main dynamic content header. Alt+B = Back in the virtual browser history. Alt+F = Forward in the virtual browser history. There is also a fairly comprehensive header structure as well, which makes it very easy to skip between product sections while browsing. I haven't made the service public yet, because I would like to get people's input to see if there is anything that I can do to make the service 1. Easier to use. 2. More accessible for screen reader users. 3. more reliable by identifying any missed bugs. If you would like to send me any feedback, I'd really appreciate it. Please email me at bryan.garaventa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I'll likely see it first at this address. 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