Re: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service

  • From: "Rick Harmon" <rickharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:48:25 -0400

Sorry, I know a couple of fully sighted that use the keyboard more than the 
mouse.  keyboard commands are quicker than the mouse is and indeed some 
sighted users know this.

Rick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service


Well, I am pretty sure that there are no sighted users that use only the
keyboard. For most of the sighted, if the computer doesn't have a mouse, is
not usable.

I use Jaws and Jaws used to define those hotkeys in older versions, and I
prefer them to the single letter hotkeys that could be used to jump to the
form elements.
If I remember well, in the latest versions of Jaws, FS disabled some of
them, or replaced some of them with calls to other unuseful functions, but
I've replaced them back.

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service


> This of course assumes you are using a screen reader that defines these
> hotkeys. He said sighted keyboard-only users -- honestly I don't know if
> there are many of those...
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service
>
>
> Well, I use to use Control+insert+home to set the focus to the first form
> field, then jump around with Control+Insert+tab. It works for all the web
> sites, so it is easier to use than any other hotkey defined.
>
> Octavian
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Garaventa" <bgaraventa11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:09 AM
> Subject: Re: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service
>
>
> Thanks, the alt+s hotkey was mainly designed for keyboard only users who
> may
> wish for a quick method to jump back into the search edit field from
> within
> the page content. This prevents the need for excessive tabbing and
> scrolling
> for sighted users.
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: tribble
>  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:12 PM
>  Subject: Re: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service
>
>
>  Nice site.  I really like the headers that let me skip to where I need to
> go without wading through all of the fluff.
>  It would be nice if some of the lists of links were marked by a header as
> well, so I can navigate through the whole thing typing h.
>  But then you have a hotkey for that block (I think).    In general I
> would
> prefer avoiding adding any more hotkeys for use just by a page for the
> reasons that they might conflict with some screen reader or script
> commands,
> and also because it is hard to keep track of all the hotkeys we as blind
> persons have to memorize to access windows.
>
>  One question: Why the alt+S hotkey when browser searches already search
> edit fields?
>  Guess I should play around with it more and see the difference.
>
>  Nice job though.
>  Is this going to be adopted by amazon perchance? Whom do you work for?
>  --le
>
>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>    From: Bryan Garaventa
>    To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>    Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:24 PM
>    Subject: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service
>
>
>    Hopefully this isn't off topic, but I need beta testers from the blind
> community if anyone is interested.
>
>    The service is an AJAX driven Amazon.com search engine, which is now
> live at
>    http://gutterstar.net/amazon.php
>
>    It includes quite a few accessibility enhancements, including focus
> redirection when new pages load, and the following hotkey shortcuts:
>    Alt+S = Search edit field.
>    Alt+` = The main dynamic content header.
>    Alt+B = Back in the virtual browser history.
>    Alt+F = Forward in the virtual browser history.
>    There is also a fairly comprehensive header structure as well, which
> makes it very easy to skip between product sections while browsing.
>
>    I haven't made the service public yet, because I would like to get
> people's input to see if there is anything that I can do to make the
> service
>    1. Easier to use.
>    2. More accessible for screen reader users.
>    3. more reliable by identifying any missed bugs.
>
>    If you would like to send me any feedback, I'd really appreciate it.
> Please email me at
>    bryan.garaventa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>    I'll likely see it first at this address.
>
>    Thanks,
>
>    Bryan
>
>
>
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