Sorry, I know a couple of fully sighted that use the keyboard more than the mouse. keyboard commands are quicker than the mouse is and indeed some sighted users know this. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service Well, I am pretty sure that there are no sighted users that use only the keyboard. For most of the sighted, if the computer doesn't have a mouse, is not usable. I use Jaws and Jaws used to define those hotkeys in older versions, and I prefer them to the single letter hotkeys that could be used to jump to the form elements. If I remember well, in the latest versions of Jaws, FS disabled some of them, or replaced some of them with calls to other unuseful functions, but I've replaced them back. Octavian ----- Original Message ----- From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service > This of course assumes you are using a screen reader that defines these > hotkeys. He said sighted keyboard-only users -- honestly I don't know if > there are many of those... > --le > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:34 AM > Subject: Re: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service > > > Well, I use to use Control+insert+home to set the focus to the first form > field, then jump around with Control+Insert+tab. It works for all the web > sites, so it is easier to use than any other hotkey defined. > > Octavian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bryan Garaventa" <bgaraventa11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:09 AM > Subject: Re: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service > > > Thanks, the alt+s hotkey was mainly designed for keyboard only users who > may > wish for a quick method to jump back into the search edit field from > within > the page content. This prevents the need for excessive tabbing and > scrolling > for sighted users. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: tribble > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:12 PM > Subject: Re: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service > > > Nice site. I really like the headers that let me skip to where I need to > go without wading through all of the fluff. > It would be nice if some of the lists of links were marked by a header as > well, so I can navigate through the whole thing typing h. > But then you have a hotkey for that block (I think). In general I > would > prefer avoiding adding any more hotkeys for use just by a page for the > reasons that they might conflict with some screen reader or script > commands, > and also because it is hard to keep track of all the hotkeys we as blind > persons have to memorize to access windows. > > One question: Why the alt+S hotkey when browser searches already search > edit fields? > Guess I should play around with it more and see the difference. > > Nice job though. > Is this going to be adopted by amazon perchance? Whom do you work for? > --le > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bryan Garaventa > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:24 PM > Subject: Looking for beta testers for accessible AJAX service > > > Hopefully this isn't off topic, but I need beta testers from the blind > community if anyone is interested. > > The service is an AJAX driven Amazon.com search engine, which is now > live at > http://gutterstar.net/amazon.php > > It includes quite a few accessibility enhancements, including focus > redirection when new pages load, and the following hotkey shortcuts: > Alt+S = Search edit field. > Alt+` = The main dynamic content header. > Alt+B = Back in the virtual browser history. > Alt+F = Forward in the virtual browser history. > There is also a fairly comprehensive header structure as well, which > makes it very easy to skip between product sections while browsing. > > I haven't made the service public yet, because I would like to get > people's input to see if there is anything that I can do to make the > service > 1. Easier to use. > 2. More accessible for screen reader users. > 3. more reliable by identifying any missed bugs. > > If you would like to send me any feedback, I'd really appreciate it. > Please email me at > bryan.garaventa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > I'll likely see it first at this address. > > Thanks, > > Bryan > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > No viruses found in this incoming message > Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.5.5 > http://www.iolo.com > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind