Re: Good resource for beginning programmers

  • From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:35:40 +0200

hello,
There is not something that can be developed in a language and can not be developed in the other language. But some languages have some features which makes the development process faster for some situations, or some of them favor better the modularity, reusability, and so on. For example I never considered php as a object orinted language, it introduced for sure classes and objects, but until php 5.2 there were not modifiers, encapsulation and other oop features. 
Also now I face other problems with php regarding the memory management.
I designed a crawler which uses a dom parser to get data from a page.
And for simple pages the program offers me an error "out of memory".
I increased the allowed memory up to 512 mb, but nothing.
I started to look in my soft, and unset all variables when I finied working with them, but no look. 
I ntransformed the program from php in java and no problem with it.
So i think that or php has serious problems with memory management, or there is something I don't know about memory management in php. 

How ever, in great projects, it is never used a single language/technology.
Always there is a interoperability in a project.
Another example of crawler I worked, was written in
perl for parsing with regex, java for database manipulation, php for web presentation. For example I like at python that it is realy an object oriented language in the web area, it is so object oriented that has some oop features that even java has not. 
best regards
Radu.
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Hi everybody-
I am trying to decide where to start as far as learning programming.
I decided I would focus on 1. PHP, 2. JavaScript, 3. Java, 4. C
I figured these are being used the most in web development and custom
applications. So, where does Python come in?  How would you compare Python
with Java, PHP, and C??
Can anybody give me an example of what cannot be developed in PHP which can 
be developed in Python?
Or how about Java vs Python if PHP is to lowly?  I have just heard PHP has
limitations.



H.R. Soltani

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Tyler
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:20 AM
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Subject: Re: Good resource for beginning programmers

I'm not great with python, but I could help either one or both of you
out with what I know. I've been working with python and have had the
help of people who use it for a living to kind of guide me.
On 11/17/2010 9:14 AM, Homme, James wrote:

Hi Alex,
I'm interested, but I don't have the time to schedule sitting down for
hours at a time. If you'd like to exchange notes here and there and sort of 
go through something at the same time, I welcome that. It's good to think
about having a partner to bounce thoughts around with. Maybe we could create a plan to go through some of the material and sit down for maybe a half hour 
a week to encourage one another.


Thanks.

Jim

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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence

Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:55 AM
To: programmingblind
Subject: Good resource for beginning programmers

Hi, folks,

Thought I'd share this.  I don't know how many of you may know this
but MIT puts a bunch of their courses on a site that they make
available to everyone called OCW which is short for Open Courseware.
I've found a nice link in this site to their Introduction to Computer
Science and Programming course which was taught in fall 2008.  It's a
whole semester's worth of lectures, assignments, readings and so
forth.  Most of us probably can't afford to take time off our jobs and
attend MIT but, we can still get the benefit of some of their excelent
curriculum this way.  I think it beats just reading a book and
learning that way.  Posting the link below.  The language they use for
this course is Python.  I'm actually planning to put c++ on pause for
a while while I take this course as time allows since Python appears
to be a much quicker way to learn programming.  If anyone wants to
join me for the occasional study session, e-mail me privately and we
can help each other out from time to time.  Probably watch two hours
worth of lectures on a weekend night or something like that.  And yes,
if anyone's curious, they do have a c++ introductory course there but
it's all lecture notes and pdf's.  The lecture notes look like they
don't do squat for you if you didn't attend class as really good
lecture notes written by any self-respecting instructor should in
order to motivate you to show up for class.  The cs course with Python
has all the bells and whistles short of truly being able to enroll and
have the instructor available.

Here is the link:



http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-00-
introduction-to-computer-science-and-programming-fall-2008/


Regards,
Alex M
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