If I'm not mistaken, Java applets are client-side, though they can communicate with the server, just like Flash/ActionScript. As for a programming language that works for web-development, I'm not too sure -- that's not really my field. If you are using IIS (Internet Information Servers), then C#/.net is the only language that is compiled that I can think of.
All programming languages work on a local computer. It is up to the programmer to add support for server/client network communications. While some languages may implement that seemlessly for you, it is still the same concept. And yes, Java is a programming language (unfortunately).
Java is the most widely used programming language for mobile devices, so you may want to check that out if you are considering developing for mobile devices (as much as I hate Java).
On 11/17/2010 6:16 PM, Client Services wrote:
OK- Thank you. That makes sense. One more question. What programming language works from a website server? Is there a programming language that works both on my computer or from a remote server? As far as I can tell. The only one is Java. Asuming of course Java is a programming language and not a scripting language. Java is a programming language... right? So far, it sounds like I need to learn C++ along with some scripting language that works for website development such as PHP, java, or Python. My objective is to be able to develop very powerful applications on the internet that can run on computers and mobile devices. I also truly dislike studying something and mastering it just as it goes out of style. H.R. Soltani -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christopher Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:31 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Good resource for beginning programmers You are correct that scripting languages just brings the "best" out of a programming language. A scripting language simply sits atop (whether it be directly or indirectly) a programming language. That means, C/C++ is really what is running your PHP and Python scripts. Scripting languages mainly just provide a simple (usually typeless) syntax so things can get done much quicker than in a true programming language. For example, it is usually much easier to do something in Python than it is to do that same thing in C++. However, that does not come free. You lose much performance when you choose a scripting language (usually). On 11/17/2010 3:49 PM, Client Services wrote:Hi- Thank you for that explanation. Seems like the line between programming and scripting languages is getting blurred. Are scripting languages becoming as powerful as a programming language?Ordo they just bring the best out of the programming language they arewrittenin. If PHP and Python are written in C and C++, then why can't they make PHPandPython to be more like a CMS and useable by non-programmers? In summary, if I have this correct, a scripting language is actuallywrittenin a programming language and is just a way of accessing and using thegivenprogramming language. When I use PHP and Python, I am actually using C and C++, just in a unique dialect? That is assuming Python and PHP are written in C or C++. So somehow, PHP and Python were supposed to make C or what everprogramminglanguage easier to use? Is this accurate? Sorry for the dumb questions. H.R. Soltani -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christopher Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:24 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Good resource for beginning programmers This is one of my pet peeves. A programming language is a language that is, in the majority of the cases, compiled to native machine code -and- used for application development (i.e. C, C++, D) A scripting language is a language that is, in the majority of the cases, interpreted -and- used to control applications, and sometimes application development in general (i.e. Python, PHP, Ruby, AutoIT, etc.) Java was not a true programming language until recently when it decided to compile its bytecode on-the-fly. C# has always been a programming language because it has always compiled its MSIL on-the-fly. PHP and Python are both written in C and are both interpreted. (PHP might be written in C++.) I refuse to call a non-compiled language a programming language, regardless of the language. So, here is a simple test to see what is a programming language and what is a scripting language. 1. Can you write a full application in the language? If yes, then is the language compiled? If yes, then it is a programming language. 2. Can you write a full application in the language? If yes, then is the language compiled? If no, then it is a scripting language. 3. Can you write a full application in the language? If no, then it is a scripting language. On 11/17/2010 2:24 PM, Alex Midence wrote:I am not at a stage in my learning where I can do well at explaining this so, I have provided some links for you to explore: Scripting language http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scripting_language Programming language: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_language Be warned: This will create more questions for you. Have fun!!! Alex M On 11/17/10, Client Services<operations@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi- What is the difference between a scripting language and a programming language? So if PHP and Python are scripting languages, what programming languagearethey written in? And why are they called scripting languages? H.R. Soltani -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:52 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Good resource for beginning programmers You've got scripting languages and programming languages there. Javascript is client side scripting. Websites run scripts on the visitor's machine to dynamically change themselves according to stimuli. Php is a scripting language that does dynamic webpage changing among other things from the server side. It is used in conjunction with database solutions like my sql and the like. Java and C are both programming languages. Java is a high level object-oriented language that runs on a virtual machine. It is used to create applets and web apps for all sorts of functions. Java is also used to create desktop applicaitons like, for instance, Eclipse, Open Office, and things of that nature. C is a low-level procedural programming language that is used for desktop aplications and low-level programming such as drivers, utilities and the like. Certain platforms are also written in C like, for instance, Windoes is in C. I believe Gnome was also written in C. I went into this detail because your post indicated that you thought these were all web development languages and they are not. Python is a scripting language that can do a lot of the same things programming languages can do and has a reputation for being easy to learn and fostering rapid development. An applications that php could not create, IMHO is a screen reader. Python was used to create two of them. Hope that helps, Alex M On 11/17/10, Client Services<operations@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi everybody- I am trying to decide where to start as far as learning programming. I decided I would focus on 1. PHP, 2. JavaScript, 3. Java, 4. C I figured these are being used the most in web development and custom applications. So, where does Python come in? How would you comparePythonwith Java, PHP, and C?? Can anybody give me an example of what cannot be developed in PHP whichcanbe developed in Python? Or how about Java vs Python if PHP is to lowly? I have just heard PHPhaslimitations. H.R. 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