Re: Good resource for beginning programmers

  • From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:17:31 -0700

No. I think you're generating the confusion. What makes jaws scripting different from python? (besides the fact that python doesn't have scripting or script appended to the name). Are you aware that lua, python, ruby... can be imbedded in applications like jaws script is to make it make the application customizable? In fact, many games use lua for their scripting language. wow is a great example of this.

On 11/17/2010 9:14 PM, black ares wrote:
you generate a little confusion here:

In fact all are programming languages, but one of them php, python, are interpreted programming languages and other java, c, are compiled programming languages, or mixt programming language (like java).

Scripting languages are languages which help at the customisation and automation of other applications, like jaws scripting language. But in the real world there is used "scripting language" incorectly for an interpreted programming language.
To distinguish between those languages:
An interpreted language is one where the source code sufers no transformation and at runtime it is readed line by line by an interpretor and executed. A compiled programming language is one where the source code is transformed in object code and after linking it is transformed in a machine native language. This are the language that from a file they get another file which is the program. For example in C language, from .c file, you compile it and get an .exe file under windows.
Mixt programming languages, like java and dotnet languages,
Are compiled in an intermediary language, native language for a virtual machine and at runtime the virtual machine interprets the intermediary language and transform it on the fly in machine native language for the computer on which it runs. This is the theory, so don't waste time to understand why and when one are scripting and other not. Because is a false positive case and you don't loose anything if you don't know about that.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Midence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: Good resource for beginning programmers


I am not at a stage in my learning where I can do well at explaining
this so, I have provided some links for you to explore:

Scripting language
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scripting_language

Programming language:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_language

Be warned:  This will create more questions for you.  Have fun!!!

Alex M




On 11/17/10, Client Services <operations@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi-
What is the difference between a scripting language and a programming
language?
So if PHP and Python are scripting languages, what programming language are
they written in?
And why are they called scripting languages?

H.R. Soltani


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:52 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Good resource for beginning programmers

You've got scripting languages and programming languages there.
Javascript is client side scripting.  Websites run scripts on the
visitor's machine to dynamically change themselves according to
stimuli.  Php is a scripting language that does dynamic webpage
changing among other things from the server side.  It is used in
conjunction with database solutions like my sql and the like.  Java
and C are both programming languages.  Java is a high level
object-oriented language that runs on a virtual machine.  It is used
to create applets and web apps for all sorts of functions.  Java is
also used to create desktop  applicaitons like, for instance, Eclipse,
Open Office, and things of that nature.  C is a low-level procedural
programming language that is used for desktop aplications and
low-level programming such as drivers, utilities and the like.
Certain platforms are also written in C like, for instance, Windoes is
in C.  I believe Gnome was also written in C.  I went into this detail
because your post indicated that you thought these were all web
development languages and they are not.  Python is a scripting
language that can do a lot of the same things programming languages
can do and has a reputation for being easy to learn and fostering
rapid development.  An applications that php could not create, IMHO is
a screen reader.  Python was used to create two of them.

Hope that helps,
Alex M


On 11/17/10, Client Services <operations@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi everybody-
I am trying to decide where to start as far as learning programming.
I decided I would focus on 1. PHP, 2. JavaScript, 3. Java, 4. C
I figured these are being used the most in web development and custom
applications. So, where does Python come in? How would you compare Python
with Java, PHP, and C??
Can anybody give me an example of what cannot be developed in PHP which
can
be developed in Python?
Or how about Java vs Python if PHP is to lowly? I have just heard PHP has
limitations.



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