Re: FLOS manuals
- From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
Chris,
Unfortunately, this has become frustrating, and it is affecting my
motivation to get involved in FSF projects. Below is the message you
posted at the end of March indicating an FSF-related effort you were
undertaking to make all available Floss manuals easily accessible to
blind people -- with distribution help from Elf and me after we got the
collection. Multiple list members responded to your post, expressing
strong interest in such documentation.
Every few weeks, after hearing nothing about follow up, I have inquired
about the status. Almost every time you have said that you forgot about
it, and indicated that your wife will take the next step. Although you
have your own web space on DreamHost, and other free services exist for
sharing a large archive, the manuals were apparently individually sent
to Inthane as about 40 email attachments in a format he could not open.
While other accessibility efforts are surely underway, this is the first
impression many of us are getting about the FSF commitment to
accessibility. Isn't it time to take charge of this matter yourself,
and ensure delivery on an offer that was made to our community?
Jamal
-- Original Message --
From: Chris Hofstader <cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:53:15 -0400
Subject: Fwd: Floss manuals for people with vision impairment
Hi,
Deborah, the FSF membership coordinator, and I sent an email to the
person in
charge of Floss Manuals, the company that published the command line
tutorial I
mentioned earlier. Adam says that almost all of their books use GPL as
their
license and that he can provide their entire catalogue in PDF rolled up
into a
big .tar
file. His note is below.
This is all happening pretty fast so I haven't had the chance to take a
look at
the rest of the books they have but I'd bet that some will interest some
of you.
If Jamal or Elf want, they can take the entire .tar open it up and put
as much
as they like on their sites. If PDF needs to be converted to text, I'm
sure
that won't be too hard.
Begin forwarded message:
From: adam hyde <adam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
hey Chris and Deborah,
All books from FLOSS Manuals are available under a free license and
you
are welcome to use them as you choose for free as long as the same
license is maintained (we use the GPL for all books except 3 or 4
which
are either CC-BY-SA or FDL). We can provide PDF, plain html (each book
on one page) or odt. Probably for us the PDF is the easiest to
provide.
Here is an example of a PDF from us:
<http://en.flossmanuals.net/Ardour/FM_22Mar10.pdf>
we can provide you with a tar of all the manuals in pdf if you like...
adam
Founder FLOSS Manuals
German mobile : + 49 177 4935122
Email : adam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
irc: irc.freenode.net #flossmanuals
"Free manuals for free software"
<http://www.flossmanuals.net/about>
On
Thu, 10
Jun 2010, Jamal Mazrui wrote:
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:45:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: FLOS manuals
Elf reported to the list that the 40 or so files were in a Macintosh .WebSite
format that he could not access. He was going to search for a tool that
would enable him to open the files, but no one knew of a Windows-based one
that could definately do the job.
Can't you post the collection in a zip archive somewhere (DreamHost,
SendSpace, or whatever)?
Jamal
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010, Chris Hofstader wrote:
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:50:59 -0400
From: Chris Hofstader <cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: FLOS manuals
I think Susan did a handoff to Mr. Elf a couple of weeks ago.
I've been covered in tar and feathers volunteering on the clean-up in
Alabama all week so this effort hasn't even crossed my mind in the
slightest.
cdh
PS: Please call me to discuss the things I left on your voice mail last
week.
On 06/10/2010 11:13 AM, Jamal Mazrui wrote:
Can we get a status update on making an accessible collection of these
available?
Jamal
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