Yes, you can copy and paste the source of the html page. I believe the source is accessed via View/Source in IE6. Paste it into the reply of this email and send as plain text. Unless it is a lot of code. Brent Neal wrote: > Yes. I access Cognos using Windows Internet Explorer 6 because that > is the version the state is currently using because of some other > applications. I do not think you can get to Cognos without a > licence. Is there more information I can give you that would help? > > Brent Neal > 140 E 300 S > Salt Lake City, UT 84111 > > Programmer > Phone: 801.526.9797 > Email: bneal@xxxxxxxx <mailto:bneal@xxxxxxxx> > > > >>> "R. Haynie" <rhaynie@xxxxxxxxxxx> 9/28/2009 11:32 AM >>> > Ok, so now we may be getting somewhere. Is this accessed through a > web browser? > If so, it might help you to take a look at the source after the page > has been rendered. It might lead to showing what elements/components > are used for their UI. > > You might want to sent the source to the list or if possible (and I > would guess not) send a URL to us so we could look at the situation. > > -Rodney > > > Brent Neal wrote: >> Hi Jim, >> One key bit of information I forgot to mention it that this version >> of Cognos is a web application. In the Hotspotclicker documentation >> it talks about inserting JAWS scripts into the application. Will >> Hotspotclicker work on web applications? >> >> Brent Neal >> 140 E 300 S >> Salt Lake City, UT 84111 >> >> Programmer >> Phone: 801.526.9797 >> Email: bneal@xxxxxxxx <mailto:bneal@xxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >>> Jim Bauer <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx> 9/24/2009 10:28 AM >>> >> Yes. It's not dependent on what JAWS sees; it blindly clicks a >> position in its most basic form. There are safeguards, but if you >> "defined a hotspot" with "app main window relative" positioning, you'd >> be fine. >> >> Jim >> >> >> "Brent Neal" <bneal@xxxxxxxx> wrote on Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:14:14 >> -0600: >> >> >Hi Jim, >> >Thanks for the information. I went to the hotspotclicker website >> and read through some of the information. Do you know if this would >> work on an icon that JAWS cannot even seem to find? >> > >> >Brent Neal >> >140 E 300 S >> >Salt Lake City, UT 84111 >> > >> >Programmer >> >Phone: 801.526.9797 >> >Email: bneal@xxxxxxxx >> > >> > >> >>>> Jim Bauer <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx> 9/24/2009 9:55 AM >>> >> >Hotspot Clicker will get you up and running in the shortest amount of >> >time and without you having to sit in front of your favorite text >> >editor, testing and debugging JAWS script code. <G> >> > >> >Borrow a pair of eyes while you position the JAWS cursor over the >> >appropriate items. You can choose to position relative to either >> >screen height/width or the dimentions of the application main >> >window. >> > >> >"Brent Neal" <bneal@xxxxxxxx> wrote on Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:41:16 >> >-0600: >> > >> >>With further sighted assistance I have better information. >> >>In insertable objects there are 3 tabs. The screen comes up in the >> default tab which is source. If the sighted user clicks on one of >> the other tabs either data items or Toolbox than JAWS will read what >> is in it but I cannot get JAWS to find the other tabs. This seems >> like such a simple problem but it makes it unusable for me. It is >> probably just because the developer did not label the tabs so that >> JAWS knows they are there. We have the same problem with the tabs in >> the next part of the screen which is called the Page Explorer. >> >>Let me know if you have any other suggestions. >> >>Thank You >> >> >> >>Brent Neal >> >>140 E 300 S >> >>Salt Lake City, UT 84111 >> >> >> >>Programmer >> >>Phone: 801.526.9797 >> >>Email: bneal@xxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Dorene Cornwell <dorenefc@xxxxxxxxx> 9/24/2009 12:45 AM >>> >> >>This is going to sound flip, but have you tried Ctrl Tab ? >> >> >> >>Good luck >> >> >> >>DC >> >> >> >>On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Brent Neal <bneal@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> The 3 icons I cannot access are actually called tabs in the >> documentation. >> >>> They are referred to as the Toolbox tab, Data Items tab and >> Source tab in >> >>> the Insertable Objects Pane. >> >>> Is there a special way to access tabs? >> >>> >> >>> Brent Neal >> >>> 140 E 300 S >> >>> Salt Lake City, UT 84111 >> >>> >> >>> Programmer >> >>> Phone: 801.526.9797 >> >>> Email: bneal@xxxxxxxx >> >>> >> >>>>>> Dorene Cornwell <dorenefc@xxxxxxxxx> 9/23/2009 1:16 PM >>> >> >>> Brent >> >>> >> >>> In cases like this, I am a great believer in making the Cognos tech >> >>> support staff earn their keep. Web-based report-writing is too >> >>> important a function. Cognos is too important a product; >> >>> decisionmakers for organizations of all sizes SHOULD be considering >> >>> accessibility in their purchasing decisions and Cognos should not be >> >>> allowed to slide and palm all the work off on you or your IT >> shop. You >> >>> are basically beta-testing and intentionally or not helping them with >> >>> necessary development work. >> >>> >> >>> I think the hotspot clicker idea also sounds interesting. What >> >>> screenreader and version of JAWS are you using? I have not read all >> >>> the wonders that JAWS 10 is supposed to work with dynamic updates of >> >>> the screen, but I would think to look there. >> >>> >> >>> Keep us all posted. This is important work! >> >>> >> >>> DoreneC >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Jim Bauer >> <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx> wrote: >> >>>> Alas, I know nothing of Cognos itself, though I'll write anyway >> with a >> >>>> couple *helpful* bits about your problem(s): >> >>>> >> >>>> I'm sure Geoff C is composing a thesis extolling the virtues of >> >>>> Hotspot Clicker, so I'll beat him to it. <grin>. Any time you're >> >>>> talking about coordinate-based positioning in areas that have the >> >>>> potential for going dynamic, it's definitely the easiest, most >> >>>> customizable option. >> >>>> >> >>>> Are the sectioned-off elements you seek actual windows or just >> >>>> "chunks" of information written to one large window that represents >> >>>> the screen area? >> >>>> >> >>>> P.S. If you're unaware, Hotspot Clicker can be found at >> >>>> http://www.hotspotclicker.org >> >>>> "Brent Neal" <bneal@xxxxxxxx> wrote on Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:25:21 >> >>>> -0600: >> >>>> >> >>>>>Here at work I was put on the data warehouse team because they >> thought I >> >>>>> could learn Cognos and create Cognos reports. So far Cognos on >> the web has >> >>>>> been quite accessible accept we cannot seem to get to the >> Source, Toolbox >> >>>>> and Data Items icons which are in the center part of the >> screen. I had >> >>>>> sighted assistance in labeling the icons but JAWS still does >> not recognize >> >>>>> them. Is there any way to get around this problem? If not I >> will not be >> >>>>> able to create the reports. >> >>>>>Also the screen is divided into 3 sections and I need to find a >> way to >> >>>>> switch between sections. They are not frames or tables. Does >> anyone know >> >>>>> how to do this? >> >>>>>Is anyone else using Cognos with JAWS? >> >>>>>Any help will be appreciated. >> >>>>>Thank You >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Brent Neal >> >>>>>140 E 300 S >> >>>>>Salt Lake City, UT 84111 >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Programmer >> >>>>>Phone: 801.526.9797 >> >>>>>Email: bneal@xxxxxxxx >> >>>> >> >>>> __________ >> >>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >> >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> __________ >> >>> View the list's information and change your settings at >> >>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >>> >> >>> >> >>__________ >> >>View the list's information and change your settings at >> >>//www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> > >> >__________ >> >View the list's information and change your settings at >> >//www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >