Re: Case sensitivity - feedback welcome
- From: Andreas Stefik <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:35:26 -0500
Thanks folks, this is helpful. First, prosody is any kind of voice
inflection change, like changing the speed of the voice, the pitch,
the volume, or something similar.
Second, if I'm reading correctly, it sounds like this isn't really a
big deal. If anything, we may want to have a feature that allows
people to more easily distinguish between all cap words and non, but
that having it say "all caps" or something similar might be annoying
anyway.
Thanks, all,
Stefik
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I am not a code professional, I just do it as a hobby. My ears sometimes
> have difficulty hearing the pitch change most text to speech engines
> prefer. What is prosody? Is it similar to the pitch change method?
>
> In JAWS, I had to create a special Speech and Sounds Scheme that verbally
> says "Cap" before individual characters when typing and reviewing by
> character. It also says "AllCaps" when word typing echo is enabled and when
> reviewing by word. Having it announce Caps when reading line by line, by
> sentence, or a SayAll I find not necessary and just annoying. I do not use
> this all of the time, but in JAWS, I can switch to this scheme quickly with
> Insert + Alt + S or just make it load for certain applications.
>
> I also have the Insert + ` key cycle through All, Most, Some and None
> punctuation levels. This is helpful when coding.
>
> Don Marang
> From: Andreas Stefik
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:40 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Sodbeans
> Subject: Case sensitivity - feedback welcome
> Hey folks,
>
> Our development team over here is working on the finishing touches on the
> Sodbeans project before release, which is on schedule for early July
> (Hooray!). One of the bugs currently listed in our bug database is that our
> text-to-speech engine doesn't distinguish between "case" in variable names.
> As I go through and use Voice Over (I'm on mac at the moment), I notice that
> it doesn't distinguish between case in words either, although, like most
> screen readers, it uses prosody to indicate case for specific letters.
>
> So, I have two questions:
>
> 1. How do most blind individuals deal with case and case sensitivity while
> programming? My guess is that most people, if there's a case issue, have go
> through a variable character by character. Is there other strategies? Do
> other screen readers have features for dealing with these issues?
>
> 2. All else being equal, would it be desirable for the blind community to
> have a programming language be completely case insensitive? Or,
> alternatively, should we output special auditory cues if something is in
> Camel Case?
>
>
> Any thoughts the community is willing to offer would be appreciated. What we
> really want to know is, is this issue a really big deal, or does it not
> cause many problems in practice?
>
> Stefik
>
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