I definitely make heavy use of the screen reader interpreting a capitalized letter in the middle of a word like a word boundary in my own work. It helps me out some, but this is one of those things that really make me wish I had a Braille display!
On 6/3/2010 12:35 PM, Andreas Stefik wrote:
Thanks folks, this is helpful. First, prosody is any kind of voice inflection change, like changing the speed of the voice, the pitch, the volume, or something similar. Second, if I'm reading correctly, it sounds like this isn't really a big deal. If anything, we may want to have a feature that allows people to more easily distinguish between all cap words and non, but that having it say "all caps" or something similar might be annoying anyway. Thanks, all, Stefik On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Donald Marang<donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:I am not a code professional, I just do it as a hobby. My ears sometimes have difficulty hearing the pitch change most text to speech engines prefer. What is prosody? Is it similar to the pitch change method? In JAWS, I had to create a special Speech and Sounds Scheme that verbally says "Cap" before individual characters when typing and reviewing by character. It also says "AllCaps" when word typing echo is enabled and when reviewing by word. Having it announce Caps when reading line by line, by sentence, or a SayAll I find not necessary and just annoying. I do not use this all of the time, but in JAWS, I can switch to this scheme quickly with Insert + Alt + S or just make it load for certain applications. I also have the Insert + ` key cycle through All, Most, Some and None punctuation levels. This is helpful when coding. Don Marang From: Andreas Stefik Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:40 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Sodbeans Subject: Case sensitivity - feedback welcome Hey folks, Our development team over here is working on the finishing touches on the Sodbeans project before release, which is on schedule for early July (Hooray!). One of the bugs currently listed in our bug database is that our text-to-speech engine doesn't distinguish between "case" in variable names. As I go through and use Voice Over (I'm on mac at the moment), I notice that it doesn't distinguish between case in words either, although, like most screen readers, it uses prosody to indicate case for specific letters. So, I have two questions: 1. How do most blind individuals deal with case and case sensitivity while programming? My guess is that most people, if there's a case issue, have go through a variable character by character. Is there other strategies? Do other screen readers have features for dealing with these issues? 2. All else being equal, would it be desirable for the blind community to have a programming language be completely case insensitive? Or, alternatively, should we output special auditory cues if something is in Camel Case? Any thoughts the community is willing to offer would be appreciated. What we really want to know is, is this issue a really big deal, or does it not cause many problems in practice? Stefik__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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