Re: Access to PDF
- From: "Niran" <public.niran@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:57:49 +0530
I too agree, PDFs are very slow, and will always prefer CHM documents against
PDF because of it's tree like structure and wonderful accessibility. But
unfortunately, most documents/books are only available in PDF format.
----- Original Message -----
From: Matthew2007
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: Access to PDF
I agree, it does take forever for these PDF files to load. I don't
understand why since they load much faster in k1000.
Matthew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Access to PDF
Hi,
Regarding Adobe products, I can say that I don't like at all Adobe Acrobat
Reader.
First, it opens a pdf file very slowly.
Second, it use to pop up different windows announcing that the document is
reformatting for reading with a screen reader, and this takes time also. And
it also appear different windows asking if we want to upgrade.
From the accessibility point of view, the PDF documents are not very
accessible, if we compare them with MS Word documents. For example, at least
with Jaws 6 I can't navigate well in tables.
The advantage of pdf documents for the blind is absolutely zero. The most
important accessibility feature of Acrobat Reader would be to save the
documents as text, no matter that they were protected or not with passwords
or copy protected. An OCR built in function would be also good in case that
it contains scanned images.
I saved many times pdf documents as text, but not always the special chars
in romanian language were preserved. Sometimes some of them are replaced
with other chars like question marks or [, ], or others.
But again, the most important reason I don't like PDF documents is that they
are opened very very slowly, even with an Intel Core 2 DUO at 3 GHZ.
Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Ellis" <gerry.ellis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:03 AM
Subject: Access to PDF
> Hi,
>
> I hope that this question is deemed to be relevant to this list. I think
> it
> is as so much information is presented to us in PDF format in all aspects
> of
> our lives, including technical information.
>
> The European Disability Forum is an umbrella group representing 50 Million
> people in Europe with disabilities. See their web site at:
> www.edf-feph.org
>
> The European Disability Forum will meet with representatives of Adobe next
> Wednesday (July 9th) in Brussels in relation to access to PDF documents.
>
> I want to gather some opinions and, if possible, some suggestions to be
> put
> to them at that meeting.
>
> I am particularly interested in opinions on the standards being developed
> by
> CEN and those in the States. Are they compatable? Are they the same?
> Alternatively, do they clash in some aspects?
>
> I am also interested in how these standards, assuming that they are
> workable, can be disceminated and how we, as users, know that a document
> is
> developed in accordance with them.
>
> Having said all that, I am interested in any views on Adobe products,
> particularly those related to the production and reading of PDF documents.
>
> As the meeting is on Wednesday, I would appreciate replies by Monday
> evening.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Take care,
>
> Gerry Ellis
>
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