Hi, Regarding Adobe products, I can say that I don't like at all Adobe Acrobat Reader. First, it opens a pdf file very slowly. Second, it use to pop up different windows announcing that the document is reformatting for reading with a screen reader, and this takes time also. And it also appear different windows asking if we want to upgrade. From the accessibility point of view, the PDF documents are not very accessible, if we compare them with MS Word documents. For example, at least with Jaws 6 I can't navigate well in tables. The advantage of pdf documents for the blind is absolutely zero. The most important accessibility feature of Acrobat Reader would be to save the documents as text, no matter that they were protected or not with passwords or copy protected. An OCR built in function would be also good in case that it contains scanned images. I saved many times pdf documents as text, but not always the special chars in romanian language were preserved. Sometimes some of them are replaced with other chars like question marks or [, ], or others. But again, the most important reason I don't like PDF documents is that they are opened very very slowly, even with an Intel Core 2 DUO at 3 GHZ. Octavian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Ellis" <gerry.ellis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:03 AM Subject: Access to PDF > Hi, > > I hope that this question is deemed to be relevant to this list. I think it > is as so much information is presented to us in PDF format in all aspects of > our lives, including technical information. > > The European Disability Forum is an umbrella group representing 50 Million > people in Europe with disabilities. See their web site at: > www.edf-feph.org > > The European Disability Forum will meet with representatives of Adobe next > Wednesday (July 9th) in Brussels in relation to access to PDF documents. > > I want to gather some opinions and, if possible, some suggestions to be put > to them at that meeting. > > I am particularly interested in opinions on the standards being developed by > CEN and those in the States. Are they compatable? Are they the same? > Alternatively, do they clash in some aspects? > > I am also interested in how these standards, assuming that they are > workable, can be disceminated and how we, as users, know that a document is > developed in accordance with them. > > Having said all that, I am interested in any views on Adobe products, > particularly those related to the production and reading of PDF documents. > > As the meeting is on Wednesday, I would appreciate replies by Monday > evening. > > Thanks. > > > Take care, > > Gerry Ellis > > Tel +353-(0)1 282-7791 > Mob +353-(0)85 716-8665 > > If you don't know where you're going, > How will you know when you get there? > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 17054 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind