Re: Access to PDF

  • From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 00:38:48 +0300

Oh, thanks. I wasn't thinking to the fact that Adobe could make Acrobat Reader bad on purpose. 


Octavian
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:58 PM
Subject: RE: Access to PDF





Just so you know the slow open is a feature of the free Adobe.  It made me
sick to read Adobe's feature list for standard and pro additions.  One of
the features is the files open faster.  Now don't that just take the cake?

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:53 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Access to PDF

Hi,

Regarding Adobe products, I can say that I don't like at all Adobe Acrobat
Reader.

First, it opens a pdf file very slowly.
Second, it use to pop up different windows announcing that the document is
reformatting for reading with a screen reader, and this takes time also. And 
it also appear different windows asking if we want to upgrade.


From the accessibility point of view, the PDF documents are not very
accessible, if we compare them with MS Word documents. For example, at least 
with Jaws 6 I can't navigate well in tables.

The advantage of pdf documents for the blind is absolutely zero. The most
important accessibility feature of Acrobat Reader would be to save the
documents as text, no matter that they were protected or not with passwords or copy protected. An OCR built in function would be also good in case that 
it contains scanned images.

I saved many times pdf documents as text, but not always the special chars
in romanian language were preserved. Sometimes some of them are replaced
with other chars like question marks or [, ], or others.
But again, the most important reason I don't like PDF documents is that they 
are opened very very slowly, even with an Intel Core 2 DUO at 3 GHZ.

Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Ellis" <gerry.ellis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:03 AM
Subject: Access to PDF



Hi,

I hope that this question is deemed to be relevant to this list. I think

it

is as so much information is presented to us in PDF format in all aspects

of

our lives, including technical information.
The European Disability Forum is an umbrella group representing 50 Million 


people in Europe with disabilities. See their web site at:
www.edf-feph.org
The European Disability Forum will meet with representatives of Adobe next 


Wednesday (July 9th) in Brussels in relation to access to PDF documents.

I want to gather some opinions and, if possible, some suggestions to be

put

to them at that meeting.

I am particularly interested in opinions on the standards being developed

by

CEN and those in the States. Are they compatable? Are they the same?
Alternatively, do they clash in some aspects?

I am also interested in how these standards, assuming that they are
workable, can be disceminated and how we, as users, know that a document

is

developed in accordance with them.

Having said all that, I am interested in any views on Adobe products,
particularly those related to the production and reading of PDF documents. 

As the meeting is on Wednesday, I would appreciate replies by Monday
evening.

Thanks.


Take care,

Gerry Ellis

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